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    Student Text Lesson 14, page 49, Vocabulary: It says, "ordo ordinis" is masculine and points out that it's an exception to the norm, but the video and the flash cards say that it's feminine.

    Student Workbook, page 114, Drill D, #11: It says, "navigemus." Shouldn't it say, "navigamus?"

    I also have a question. Are possessive pronouns (mine, yours, his, hers, its, ours, yours, theirs) taught?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl in CA View Post
    Student Text Lesson 14, page 49, Vocabulary: It says, "ordo ordinis" is masculine and points out that it's an exception to the norm, but the video and the flash cards say that it's feminine.

    Student Workbook, page 114, Drill D, #11: It says, "navigemus." Shouldn't it say, "navigamus?"

    I also have a question. Are possessive pronouns (mine, yours, his, hers, its, ours, yours, theirs) taught?
    Good morning,

    1. The Student Text is correct.

    2. "Navigemus" is the 1st person present subjunctive while "navigamus" is the 1st person present indicative. The present subjunctive will be taught in Unit 4 of Third Form, so even if it's correct (My books are at the office.), we still need to change it. Thanks!

    3. The 1st and 2nd person possessive pronouns were taught in Second Form Latin. The 3rd person ones will be taught in Unit 3 of Third Form.
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    Good morning,

    1. The Student Text is correct.

    2. "Navigemus" is the 1st person present subjunctive while "navigamus" is the 1st person present indicative. The present subjunctive will be taught in Unit 4 of Third Form, so even if it's correct (My books are at the office.), we still need to change it. Thanks!

    3. The 1st and 2nd person possessive pronouns were taught in Second Form Latin. The 3rd person ones will be taught in Unit 3 of Third Form.
    Thank you. Regarding #3, my daughter is wondering if there are words (possessive pronouns) that can be used as the subject of a sentence. For example, "Mine is on the table," (mine is the subject) vs. "My book is on the table." (my is modifying book). She just looked through Second Form and the genitive of the first and second personal pronouns are translated "of me," "of us," "of you," and "of you all" and don't show possession (more like a prepositional phrase in English). Is she missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl in CA View Post
    Thank you. Regarding #3, my daughter is wondering if there are words (possessive pronouns) that can be used as the subject of a sentence. For example, "Mine is on the table," (mine is the subject) vs. "My book is on the table." (my is modifying book). She just looked through Second Form and the genitive of the first and second personal pronouns are translated "of me," "of us," "of you," and "of you all" and don't show possession (more like a prepositional phrase in English). Is she missing something?
    The possessive pronoun adjectives, like other adjectives, can be used as nouns. When used as a noun, the possessive pronoun adjective will agree in gender and number with whatever the expressed noun would have been. For example:

    • Mater: "Ubi, puellae, sunt libri vestri?" ("Girls, where are your books?")
    • Prima Puella: "Meus est sub mensa!" ("Mine is under the table!")

    In this example, the adjective "meus" is being used as a noun and is translated "mine." "Meus" is masculine singular because the implied noun is "liber" ("book"). "Meus" does not agree with the antecedent, the female speaker. Does that make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    The possessive pronoun adjectives, like other adjectives, can be used as nouns. When used as a noun, the possessive pronoun adjective will agree in gender and number with whatever the expressed noun would have been. For example:

    • Mater: "Ubi, puellae, sunt libri vestri?" ("Girls, where are your books?")
    • Prima Puella: "Meus est sub mensa!" ("Mine is under the table!")

    In this example, the adjective "meus" is being used as a noun and is translated "mine." "Meus" is masculine singular because the implied noun is "liber" ("book"). "Meus" does not agree with the antecedent, the female speaker. Does that make sense?
    Thank you so much! She said that is exactly what she wanted to know and how she guessed it would be done, but she wasn't sure. Do you know if it's ever taught in this manner somewhere in the series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl in CA View Post
    Thank you so much! She said that is exactly what she wanted to know and how she guessed it would be done, but she wasn't sure. Do you know if it's ever taught in this manner somewhere in the series?
    You're welcome!

    Adjectives used as nouns were taught back in Unit 2 of TFL, I think around Lesson 8.
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    You're welcome!

    Adjectives used as nouns were taught back in Unit 2 of TFL, I think around Lesson 8.
    Thanks! She was confused because it didn't explicitly say what the translation would be.
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