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Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

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    Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

    I saw in another thread that others have successfully transitioned into MP2 after SC2. C's younger sister will be in MP2 next year and IF he's ready to transition, he would be able to join her at our mini-cottage school. How will I know if he's truly ready to transition to MP2 or if he needs to continue to SC3?
    Jennifer
    Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

    2019-2020 Plans:

    DS16
    MP10 Lit, MP-Holt Biology, Light to the Nations II, Spanish
    MPOA: Algebra I, High School Comp II

    DS15
    As above, plus:
    MP Greek Tragedies; no Spanish
    MPOA: Fourth Form Latin

    DS12: 7M subbing Sea to Shining Sea for American history

    DS11: Simply Classical Level 4

    DD9: 3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

    DD7/8: Simply Classical Level 3

    DD 4/5: Simply Classical Level C (NT using SC for two-year PreK due to January birthday)

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    Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

    Originally posted by jen1134 View Post
    I saw in another thread that others have successfully transitioned into MP2 after SC2. C's younger sister will be in MP2 next year and IF he's ready to transition, he would be able to join her at our mini-cottage school. How will I know if he's truly ready to transition to MP2 or if he needs to continue to SC3?
    For us, this has been reading. When your son is reading well, Spelling well, comprehending well and doing well in writing (as in, he’s sailing through SC2, not making more than 5% in errors) he’s likely ready for MP2. (Aka Also ready for Prima Latina.) Math can easily be moderated, up or down, as can Copybook, Cursive, etc.. So fluency in Language Arts is my general barometer.

    You may also look at general maturity — can he sit and do the work? MP2 is more intensive at a depth of reading that surpasses the fun books of SC2.

    HTH?
    Boy Wonder: 10, MP2/SC4 (Special Needs)
    Joy Bubble: 8, MP2 (Special Needs)
    Snuggly Cowboy: 6, MPK
    Sweet Lightness: 2, Reverse-Engineering Specialist

    “Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.”
    ~Pope St John Paul II

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      #3
      Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

      We did SC2 last year and moved to some MP2 subjects this year.

      The key is he had already finished More Storytime Treasures, ahead of the SC2 schedule.

      So he's doing grade 2 math, cursive, and reading lit guides. He's doing SC3 writing and Latin. Spelling is very challenging, we're doing SC Spelling 1

      As Anita said, consider maturity. My son works slowly with a fair amount of redirection, but also needs more breaks than a traditional student. At home I can adjust the schedule when needed (we switched the order of literature recently). You wouldn't have that ability with a cottage school. So, consider how much schedule / curriculum tweaking you're currently doing with him (pace, answering orally instead of writing, etc)
      Married to DH for 13 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

      DS10- Simply Classical 4 / Grade 3 Classic Core,
      DD8- Grade 2 Classic Core,
      DD 6- Classic Core Kindergarten

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        Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

        Originally posted by Colomama View Post
        The key is he had already finished More Storytime Treasures, ahead of the SC2 schedule.
        Depending on that maturity factor, would we skip At the Farm and start SC Storytime at Week 17 so we could complete SC More Storytime before the end of August?
        Jennifer
        Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

        2019-2020 Plans:

        DS16
        MP10 Lit, MP-Holt Biology, Light to the Nations II, Spanish
        MPOA: Algebra I, High School Comp II

        DS15
        As above, plus:
        MP Greek Tragedies; no Spanish
        MPOA: Fourth Form Latin

        DS12: 7M subbing Sea to Shining Sea for American history

        DS11: Simply Classical Level 4

        DD9: 3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

        DD7/8: Simply Classical Level 3

        DD 4/5: Simply Classical Level C (NT using SC for two-year PreK due to January birthday)

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          #5
          Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

          Jen, do keep in mind that both Anita's and Colomama's boys were older at the transition. Your son is just 5 now, correct? He would be only 6 starting MP 2? Be careful planning bypassing that good oral reading, early writing, etc.

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            Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

            Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
            Jen, do keep in mind that both Anita's and Colomama's boys were older at the transition. Your son is just 5 now, correct? He would be only 6 starting MP 2? Be careful planning bypassing that good oral reading, early writing, etc.
            He's 9 (10 in October). I have a 7yo girl (8 in July) in MP 1 and another who is 5 (6 in March) doing SC1. Sorry for the confusion.
            Jennifer
            Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

            2019-2020 Plans:

            DS16
            MP10 Lit, MP-Holt Biology, Light to the Nations II, Spanish
            MPOA: Algebra I, High School Comp II

            DS15
            As above, plus:
            MP Greek Tragedies; no Spanish
            MPOA: Fourth Form Latin

            DS12: 7M subbing Sea to Shining Sea for American history

            DS11: Simply Classical Level 4

            DD9: 3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

            DD7/8: Simply Classical Level 3

            DD 4/5: Simply Classical Level C (NT using SC for two-year PreK due to January birthday)

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              #7
              Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

              That makes me feel much better!

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                #8
                Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                When my son transitioned, SC more Storytime wasn't published yet. So we just followed the traditional grade 1 schedule for it. So yes, we skipped that extra reader. He also completed the regular lit guide, but I used our experience with SC to tweak the requirements.
                Married to DH for 13 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

                DS10- Simply Classical 4 / Grade 3 Classic Core,
                DD8- Grade 2 Classic Core,
                DD 6- Classic Core Kindergarten

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                  Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                  Originally posted by Colomama View Post
                  When my son transitioned, SC more Storytime wasn't published yet. So we just followed the traditional grade 1 schedule for it. So yes, we skipped that extra reader. He also completed the regular lit guide, but I used our experience with SC to tweak the requirements.
                  Michelle (Colomama),
                  I've been meaning to ask you about a recent comment you made in a post about the difficulty level of the MP2 Lit and that you've had to alter the sequence (Beatrix Potter before Little House.) Since we are in the early stages of MP2 Lit (having taken the time to finish MSTT even though we've been moving forward in MP2 plans for spelling/phonics/math/cursive/PL, etc.) .....I wanted to just ask if you have any tips for me for my son? Do you have a different suggestion on sequencing those literature selections for MP2?

                  Thanks,
                  SusanP

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                    Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                    I switched Beatrix Potter and Little House. Looking back, I might even put Beatrix Potter before Courage of Sarah Noble.

                    There was debate whether the Beatrix Potter books would be too young for an older student, but my son really likes them.

                    That's the only switch we made. We answered all of the lit guide questions orally. I wrote the answers and then he copied 2 or 3 of the answers on his own.

                    Not sure what my plan is yet for Little House. I scored it cheap on CD so he may listen to it first independently and then we'll read it together. I'm expecting that one to take us longer than scheduled.
                    Married to DH for 13 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

                    DS10- Simply Classical 4 / Grade 3 Classic Core,
                    DD8- Grade 2 Classic Core,
                    DD 6- Classic Core Kindergarten

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                      #11
                      Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                      Okay thanks!

                      SusanP

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                        Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                        Originally posted by Colomama View Post
                        I switched Beatrix Potter and Little House. Looking back, I might even put Beatrix Potter before Courage of Sarah Noble.

                        There was debate whether the Beatrix Potter books would be too young for an older student, but my son really likes them.

                        That's the only switch we made. We answered all of the lit guide questions orally. I wrote the answers and then he copied 2 or 3 of the answers on his own.

                        Not sure what my plan is yet for Little House. I scored it cheap on CD so he may listen to it first independently and then we'll read it together. I'm expecting that one to take us longer than scheduled.
                        The more I look at it, and the more I read from everyone, I think it might be best to just keep C in SC track for at least another year. Even if his reading/work ethic ready for MP2, the flow of SC lessons makes more sense for the way his mind works. I was looking at Traditional Spelling 2 and there's no way he could handle/process the amount of information it has in a single week. His 7-going-on-8 sister will be fine with it, but not him.

                        On top of that, in many ways I think he'll be more "at grade level" with SC3 than with MP2. For example, the way the SC Writing 2 introduces significant grammar concepts, the history focus of the read-alouds/enrichment, etc.

                        So I guess my new question is: if they intro states/capitals and Latin in SC3 and SC4 finishes Prima and introduces mythology, couldn't a child transition to MP4th for New Users and just adjust the pace as needed?
                        Jennifer
                        Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                        2019-2020 Plans:

                        DS16
                        MP10 Lit, MP-Holt Biology, Light to the Nations II, Spanish
                        MPOA: Algebra I, High School Comp II

                        DS15
                        As above, plus:
                        MP Greek Tragedies; no Spanish
                        MPOA: Fourth Form Latin

                        DS12: 7M subbing Sea to Shining Sea for American history

                        DS11: Simply Classical Level 4

                        DD9: 3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

                        DD7/8: Simply Classical Level 3

                        DD 4/5: Simply Classical Level C (NT using SC for two-year PreK due to January birthday)

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                          #13
                          Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                          I will also say that the reason we did MP2 lit was that my son is ahead of the SC publication schedule. If your child is finishing SC more Storytime, I would just continue to SC4. I was forced to tweak MP2, but Cheryl has already done that for you with SC4. If I could've used SC4, I would have.

                          As far as completing SC4 and then switching to 4th for new users, I think that would be a jump. 4NU completes states and capitals, Latina Christiana and Christian Studies 1 in a one year pace. So you would take the second semester of those courses and stretch them to a year long. But, you would need to start at the beginning of Latina and Christian Studies because neither is started in SC4. Even for this devoted tweaker of schedules, that sounds like too much work for me.

                          I think the better bet would be to decide one year at a time which courses fit your student. Don't plan too far ahead (you're planning over 2 years away). Then, you can purchase a smorgasbord of PDF schedules for the classes and pace that fit your student at the time.

                          Remember, the overall goal is not to 'catch up'. The goal is to have a child that reaches THEIR personal peak. That peak is different for each child. With our different learners we need to also consider that they may need schooling past grade 12.

                          I know I have caught myself counting years up in math and lamenting that he'll only get to 9th o 10th grade math by his senior year. (And that's if we don't repeat anything or slow down). But, that's me looking way too far ahead; I think we all catch ourselves doing it. I need to remind myself, one year at a time.

                          Do what's right for your child right now, not where you want them to be in the future.
                          Married to DH for 13 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

                          DS10- Simply Classical 4 / Grade 3 Classic Core,
                          DD8- Grade 2 Classic Core,
                          DD 6- Classic Core Kindergarten

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                            Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                            I tried to reply, but said there was a “security” error!
                            Christine

                            (2019/2020)
                            DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                            DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                            DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                            Previous Years
                            DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                            DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                            DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                              Re: Transition guide for SC2 to MP2

                              Whoop whoop, intruder alert... sound the security alarm!
                              Married to DH for 13 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

                              DS10- Simply Classical 4 / Grade 3 Classic Core,
                              DD8- Grade 2 Classic Core,
                              DD 6- Classic Core Kindergarten

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