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    Anyone have words of wisdom for smoother transitions during the day, especially when you have kids with ADHD and/or EF issues? The kids do know what to do/when but it's quite the ordeal to actually get them going in that direction. Multiply this by several transitions in a day and it gets very chaotic. Our biggest problem is after meals and snacks; everyone scatters to the wind instead of doing what they're supposed to whether that's chores, quiet time, school or whatever.
    Jennifer
    Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

    DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
    DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
    DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
    DS11: SC 4
    DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
    DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
    DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

    #2
    Re: Transition times

    I agree, transitions are hard. What about allowing some free time as part of snack and lunch? In away school, the kids eat lunch and then run outside to play. This gives them the chance to get their wiggles out in a pre-planned, scheduled kind of way.

    Some people say coming back in to a group quiet activity helps. So, music or read-aloud time, maybe? It will be obvious if one has strayed as adverse to you having to go around the house counting noses and making sure each Is on their individual task.

    This is exactly what led me away from Sonlight, too many books requiring too many transitions.

    My son also likes to see the MP schedule. He can see how much more he needs to do to be totally released to freedom for the day. I also instituted homework. Work not done in a timely manner is shelved for after school or weekends. It's obvious when Dad walks in who has stayed on task and he can encourage / chastise as needed. This also prevents one child from derailing the entire family's school schedule.

    Would love to hear others suggestions because this is a very real, daily struggle for our SC kids.
    Married to DH for 14 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

    DS11- Simply Classical 5/6
    DD9- Simply Classical 5/6 (neurotypical, but schooling with big brother to save mom's sanity)
    DD 6- Classic Core First Grade

    We've completed:
    Classic Core Jr. kindergarten, kindergarten, first grade, and second grade.
    Simply Classical levels B, C, 1, 2, 3, and 4.

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      #3
      Re: Transition times

      We offer rewards for the end if every school day done well.

      I know some kids don't respond to this . If that's the case, you could try pretty shiny marbles they get fir EACH transition made well and they can cash this in for anything really. Whatever their thing is they like the best, extra computer time , extra anything they like.

      I am starting the marble for each transition done well. Transition is hard for kids with extra needs.
      The end if day worked good for us, but I'm going to do the marble At each transition to keep consistency.

      Kids love shiny marbles. ...some reward may be stickers, I have a DS obsesses with tape and stapelers lol. I give him tape haha.

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        #4
        Re: Transition times

        I can relate! My kids can totally scatter after meals and it can be a real occasion of sin around here! I find that I have to revisit our transition routine very frequently--just always keep on top of it and renew the rewards/consequences/my own attentiveness on a regular basis. One thing I have to remind myself is that kids with special needs like ADHD/ EF are 2/3 their chronological age in their ability to handle these sorts of demands--for me since it's my two older ones that have those issues, I try to keep my expectations for them similar to their younger NT siblings.

        Here's what we are doing right now:
        Big jar of Jelly Belly beans from Costco sits on my bedroom dresser. The kids each have to clear their own dishes and then do one more chore after each meal. It's just one thing, and it's the same thing after every meal or snack. One loads dishes, one clears the rest of things from table, one wipes table, one sweeps floor. They can't leave the table without being excused by me. When I say, "you're excused" they get up and do their one thing. If they do it without any more reminders, they get a check on a chart. It's the same for hygiene chores and pre-meals chores. All they get is one "it's time for ...chores" and that's it. If they do *anything* else at that point, they lose the check. 20 checks and they get 5 jelly beans. For my most ADHD child, after 1000 checks he is going out to a special dinner with me!!

        This has been really helpful this summer, but they have started to store their jelly beans and now the system isn't working as well because they are less motivated having a nice bag of jelly beans in the pantry! So soon I'll have to change it up. We've doled out screen time minutes this way before too.

        Hope that helps!
        Catherine

        2019-20
        DS16, 10th with MPOA
        DS14, 7th
        DS13, 6th
        DD13, 6th
        DS7, MP1 with Barton Reading & Spelling
        DD4, JrK
        DS 23 mos

        Homeschooling 4 with MP
        2 in classical school

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          #5
          Re: Transition times

          Colomama,

          I do this too. Ds12 HAS to have a schedule posted. I'm going to make copies if the lesson plan secdule. He will want to see it anyway.

          I'm going to put each day on a magnetic clip along with choices for them to pick from fir a reward for doing a good school day.

          I'm still going to give them a daily overall reward , but this year since we are going to also use the marbles, I'm going to give them points . each day gets a set amount of points ( everyday the same so no confusion ) . I'm goin to have them keep teach if their pints on a separate sheet of paper on the fridge using tally marks ( sneaky math practice lol )
          Then at the end of the week let them cash in their points for cash to take to the store and buy something. This can be inexpensive like a Pak of gum ( speech therapy haha) .

          Or, they can let their points accumulate to buy a more expensive item. ( again, all sneaky math)
          The practical math this give us an opportunity for is awesome. As adults, they are going to need to know how to ship, get proper change etc.
          I let them do this now with their allowance.

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            #6
            Re: Transition times

            ...my lil guys would be so hyper on helly beans!

            I should do that though with school on Saturday s . we use that as our catch up and project/craft fir history or memorization day. There's always something to catch up lol

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              #7
              Re: Transition times

              Some things we've done:

              Keep a visual schedule nearby. Items completed get checked off by the children, or they get a star for completion. And they can see what's coming next.

              Physical exercise (walking, running, outside time) before school, after lunch, after school ends.

              Keeping a consistent schedule most days. It's easier to maintain a schedule than to create a new one every day.

              Remember the first 30 mins to an hour are the hardest of school. Once everyone starts to get into the rhythm of the day, it flows much more smoothly.

              Assert your leadership. Remind them that school must be done, they must obey their parents, school is a responsibility for mature children (remind them they are Big Kids -- responsibility comes with that). Build them up through appealing to their courage, perseverance and skill. Verbally reward their effort and success (we all praise one another around here; if one child succeeds we all say "Good job!" together as a chorus and have a round of high fives).

              Keep transitions SHORT. Move rapidly from one task to the next with as little lag time as possible.

              Stay off your phone/device/etc during school. Give your students all of your attention.

              If you are already doing all of this and transitions are still overly challenging, you can 1) keep in mind that it will eventually get better with practice -- this gig is hard, Mamas, but we can do it! 2) think outside the box a bit. You know your children and what motivates them. Sit down and brainstorm some rewards/confidence boosters/ways to maintain control.

              HTH a little.
              Boy Wonder: 10, MP2/SC4 (Special Needs)
              Joy Bubble: 8, MP2 (Special Needs)
              Snuggly Cowboy: 6, MPK
              Sweet Lightness: 2, Reverse-Engineering Specialist

              “Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.”
              ~Pope St John Paul II

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                #8
                Re: Transition times

                Transitions are tricky. After breakfast, try ending the meal by saying "It is almost 8:00 and that is when we must begin school. I will give everyone 5 minutes to put away their dishes, brush teeth and be in their spot ready to learn! Get ready, get set, go!" Then when one minute is left, give a one minute warning. I would then count down the last 30 seconds so everyone could hear. When you make it a race against the clock, it becomes fun.

                After lunch, give recess time as noted by others above. They need that physical release. Then give the 5 minute warning and proceed as above.

                I remember even saying things like whoever is ready to go on time gets 5 extra minutes the next day at recess.

                These worked for me.

                HTH,
                Michelle T

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                  #9
                  Re: Transition times

                  Thank you for these ideas! As I thought more about Colomama's idea of "quiet group time", I realized that most of our trouble is being caused by trying to do chores after meals. We may need to rethink that.

                  I like the idea of them having some outside or other exercise time before school or after meals, but these wind the kids up a lot and then it's really hard to get them back inside or back to quieter activities

                  Unfortunately, I'm part of the problem. I have my own attention/memory issues due to half a lifetime of severe chronic stress (my mother was partially disabled/chronically ill from the time I was eleven; I was primary caregiver for her and my two siblings when my dad was at work. Then my adult life has had severe financial issues and behavioral issues with the kids.) We have a solid schedule that we have followed in its basic form for years, but anything that gets posted gets immediately forgotten by everyone, myself included. Even if it's something that has to be checked off...we forget to do that. It'll be 1:30 and the kids are running around and I suddenly remember "Hey, you guys were supposed to be doing quiet time a half hour ago!" At one point I had so many alarms on my phone that it drove my family crazy!

                  My husband also has serious ADHD (inattentive type) so between the two of us and the kids its really interesting. We keep this from being a problem in our business by living in our project management system. We also use that for things like doctor appointments and birthdays. But it won't work for the day-to-day household routine stuff.

                  So I need to do some more thinking on this...
                  Jennifer
                  Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                  DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
                  DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
                  DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
                  DS11: SC 4
                  DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
                  DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
                  DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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                    #10
                    Re: Transition times

                    Originally posted by Michelle T View Post
                    Transitions are tricky. After breakfast, try ending the meal by saying "It is almost 8:00 and that is when we must begin school. I will give everyone 5 minutes to put away their dishes, brush teeth and be in their spot ready to learn! Get ready, get set, go!" Then when one minute is left, give a one minute warning. I would then count down the last 30 seconds so everyone could hear. When you make it a race against the clock, it becomes fun.

                    After lunch, give recess time as noted by others above. They need that physical release. Then give the 5 minute warning and proceed as above.

                    I remember even saying things like whoever is ready to go on time gets 5 extra minutes the next day at recess.

                    These worked for me.

                    HTH,
                    Michelle T
                    Thank you Michelle, this is a good idea!
                    Jennifer
                    Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                    DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
                    DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
                    DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
                    DS11: SC 4
                    DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
                    DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
                    DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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                      #11
                      Re: Transition times

                      Originally posted by jen1134 View Post
                      Thank you for these ideas! As I thought more about Colomama's idea of "quiet group time", I realized that most of our trouble is being caused by trying to do chores after meals. We may need to rethink that.

                      Even if it's something that has to be checked off...we forget to do that. It'll be 1:30 and the kids are running around and I suddenly remember "Hey, you guys were supposed to be doing quiet time a half hour ago!" At one point I had so many alarms on my phone that it drove my family crazy!

                      My husband also has serious ADHD (inattentive type) so between the two of us and the kids its really interesting. We keep this from being a problem in our business by living in our project management system. We also use that for things like doctor appointments and birthdays. But it won't work for the day-to-day household routine stuff.
                      Ideas from a home with one NT mom and ADD dad: Chores are best done before whatever the kids want. For mine, after lessons, "Can I play x now?" "Are your chores done?" They then go check their chart. "Can I play legos?" Check your chart. So, all I have to remember is to answer "Check your chart." instead of yes or no.

                      Can you set multiple alarms on your phone for only big items: start school, lunch, quiet time, etc? Also, what is "our project management system" and why would that not work for daily life?

                      How old are your kiddos?
                      Michelle in Central Tx
                      DS 12 (4A modified), Ds 9 (4M), DS 5 (K)

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                        #12
                        Re: Transition times

                        Originally posted by mymommy1 View Post
                        Ideas from a home with one NT mom and ADD dad: Chores are best done before whatever the kids want. For mine, after lessons, "Can I play x now?" "Are your chores done?" They then go check their chart. "Can I play legos?" Check your chart. So, all I have to remember is to answer "Check your chart." instead of yes or no.

                        Can you set multiple alarms on your phone for only big items: start school, lunch, quiet time, etc? Also, what is "our project management system" and why would that not work for daily life?

                        How old are your kiddos?
                        I set up a discipline system that only requires me to say "response?" (yes ma'am) and start counting (they have 5 seconds). I don't even remember that...it's that bad.

                        We own a brand agency that we run from home and we use an online software program to manage client projects, business tasks, etc. It works for that because it's up on our computer screens the entire time we are working. It doesn't have audible alarms that we could use when away from our computers for daily life type things. We tried an app that cycles through your day and sounds an alarm/piece of music at each transition, but it's time based so if we were running behind it made everyone super stressed trying to stay on a strict time schedule. Our meals are at set times, but everything else is an ordered flow (first this, then that) between those milestones.

                        Our kids are DS13 (EF), DS almost 12 (ADHD/Anxiety), DS10, DS7 (ADHD), DD almost 6 (attachment issues after being weaned early due to my health issues), DD4 (EF) and DD18 mos (entering the terrible twos).
                        Jennifer
                        Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                        DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
                        DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
                        DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
                        DS11: SC 4
                        DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
                        DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
                        DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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                          #13
                          Re: Transition times

                          Well, all I'm going to add is *hugs*! We have a routine that we more or less stay to regardless of times, but honestly, my middle ds and I (NT) carry that in our heads and do our best to keep the others going.
                          Michelle in Central Tx
                          DS 12 (4A modified), Ds 9 (4M), DS 5 (K)

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                            #14
                            Re: Transition times

                            Originally posted by mymommy1 View Post
                            Well, all I'm going to add is *hugs*! We have a routine that we more or less stay to regardless of times, but honestly, my middle ds and I (NT) carry that in our heads and do our best to keep the others going.
                            Yes, we're a lost cause, lol!
                            Jennifer
                            Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                            DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
                            DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
                            DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
                            DS11: SC 4
                            DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
                            DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
                            DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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                              #15
                              Re: Transition times

                              Originally posted by jen1134 View Post
                              Yes, we're a lost cause, lol!
                              Oh, I do hope I didn't upset you; I didn't mean to. What I meant to say is that you have so much on your plate and, I really wish I knew how to handle those things better, especially this morning.
                              Michelle in Central Tx
                              DS 12 (4A modified), Ds 9 (4M), DS 5 (K)

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