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    #31
    Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

    Originally posted by howiecram View Post
    I had a question about that as well. I'm curious, if it is scheduled in the CM (I was wondering if it was not scheduled in 5/6, but maybe in 7/8 as with the SC3/SC4 Prima progression? why it is not "included" in the core, as in MP3, etc? I think people might miss that it is a key if it is only listed as a "suggestion"?

    Also, the music CD. I thought I remember you mentioning that we go "deeper" in 7/8 and that's when it will come into play (literally and figuratively!). So, if trying to spend our $$ wisely, would NOT getting it in 5/6 work and waiting until 7/8?

    Latin - We do recommend the DVD, but in trying to keep costs down we placed the DVD under "Recommended Supplements" with the less expensive CD in the core. As long as you have correct pronunciation and a means of reviewing aurally, the CD can suffice. This will be a personal preference. When I taught LC, MP did not yet have DVDs; even so, some might find these non-negotiable for their own teaching. Your call there. (And no, this is not the same as the SC 3 oral Prima intro to SC 4 teaching Prima. In SC 5&6, we begin teaching LC immediately.)

    Music - You are right. In SC 7&8, we study more deeply and with special attention to music theory (quadrivium!), but in SC 5&6 you will still need to listen to the selections. I'm checking to see if we offer a playlist. We'll try to let you know soon on that question.
    Last edited by Michael; 12-07-2018, 02:36 PM.

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      #32
      Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

      Originally posted by once again View Post
      I noticed that on the SC5 and 6 one year plan, the student is assigned to read the first three chapters of Farmer Boy silently in one day. If the student is unable to read that much in a reasonable amount of time, should the student be using the 2 year plan instead?


      Laura

      This is steep, isn't it?! As you can imagine, the One-Year will be primarily for our older students who are more capable, have longer attention spans, and who need to move much faster to "catch up" to their personal goals, yet whose reading and writing levels are still significantly lower than peers'. On the other end would be younger students who are making great strides yet not quite ready for the full "meat" and demands of MP Third.

      Also, keep in mind that students are reading simply to gain a first-time familiarity before we dive in more deeply. We do not expect full comprehension on this first pass through. In part we are training the habit -- new for some -- of reading silently. This is an easy way to do that.

      Note that although we have students read silently before discussing the literature (whether in Two-Year or One-Year), we include a Teacher Note in the front of the guide with explanation:
      1. Students pre-read silently before we begin formally studying each lesson.
      2. The next day you will teach the official "pre-reading" vocabulary and reading notes.
      3. Then the student(s) reread the selection out loud.

      The first time through is simply for exposure and enjoyment. If the student cannot read silently, parents can read to the student this first time through.
      Last edited by cherylswope; 12-07-2018, 02:28 PM.

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        #33
        Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

        Originally posted by howiecram View Post
        Also, the music CD. I thought I remember you mentioning that we go "deeper" in 7/8 and that's when it will come into play (literally and figuratively!). So, if trying to spend our $$ wisely, would NOT getting it in 5/6 work and waiting until 7/8?
        Yes, the playlist will be available for free under the Core heading, just as we offer in other levels. This, too, was designed to save $$ on SC 5&6.

        In 7 & 8, we will be studying particular music theory forms and patterns from the partial selections available only on the CD, so you will need the CD at that time.
        Last edited by Michael; 12-07-2018, 02:35 PM.

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          #34
          Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

          Originally posted by cherylswope View Post

          Music - You are right. In SC 7&8, we study more deeply and with special attention to music theory (quadrivium!), but in SC 5&6 you will still need to listen to the selections. I'm checking to see if we can offer a playlist or if we need to include the CD. We'll try to let you know soon on that question.
          I just want to be clear on this one. The actual music is necessary (this is a book I have not even remotely "looked" at" because it is not in the regular MP cores anywhere) to do the course as scheduled in SC5/6. The music could potentially be found elsewhere (you tube, amazon music, iTunes, etc.), so the CD may not be necessary for some families?

          Also curious, trying to understand, etc, how is this course different from say, the K-2 enrichment where no CD is provided because of, understandably copyright issues?

          (As an aside, I used to the Cultural Arts coordinator and one of the activities our community provided was a community band. We had to pay, through the nose (more money than any of our "concerts" provided for copyright) for us to be able to provide the concerts for the musicians to pay, so I "get it". I just don't understand this course, compared to the K-2 music selections, etc)
          Christine

          (2019/2020)
          DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
          DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
          DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

          Previous Years
          DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
          DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
          DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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            #35
            Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

            Originally posted by howiecram View Post
            I just want to be clear on this one. The actual music is necessary (this is a book I have not even remotely "looked" at" because it is not in the regular MP cores anywhere) to do the course as scheduled in SC5/6. The music could potentially be found elsewhere (you tube, amazon music, iTunes, etc.), so the CD may not be necessary for some families?

            Also curious, trying to understand, etc, how is this course different from say, the K-2 enrichment where no CD is provided because of, understandably copyright issues?

            (As an aside, I used to the Cultural Arts coordinator and one of the activities our community provided was a community band. We had to pay, through the nose (more money than any of our "concerts" provided for copyright) for us to be able to provide the concerts for the musicians to pay, so I "get it". I just don't understand this course, compared to the K-2 music selections, etc)
            To clarify, the Music Appreciation CD only includes the musical examples. Due to copyright laws and the associated costs, we cannot print a CD with the full pieces. The CD will not be used at all in Levels 5 & 6 (though one could add it independently) and will be used in SC 7 & 8.

            Does that help?
            Michael
            Memoria Press

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              #36
              Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

              Originally posted by howiecram View Post
              I just want to be clear on this one. The actual music is necessary (this is a book I have not even remotely "looked" at" because it is not in the regular MP cores anywhere) to do the course as scheduled in SC5/6. The music could potentially be found elsewhere (you tube, amazon music, iTunes, etc.), so the CD may not be necessary for some families?

              Also curious, trying to understand, etc, how is this course different from say, the K-2 enrichment where no CD is provided because of, understandably copyright issues?

              (As an aside, I used to the Cultural Arts coordinator and one of the activities our community provided was a community band. We had to pay, through the nose (more money than any of our "concerts" provided for copyright) for us to be able to provide the concerts for the musicians to pay, so I "get it". I just don't understand this course, compared to the K-2 music selections, etc)
              In the K-2 and previous SC levels, we have been listening to whole pieces.

              In Music Appreciation, the course covers much more. Scroll to page 5 for a sample lesson. We have divided this course into "basic" (5&6) and "advanced" (7&8). For the basic studies, we will cover the name of the piece, the composer, I. Listen, and II. A Little History.

              In 7&8, we will listen to hand-picked portions available only on the CD to illustrate III. Musical Concept. We will also cover IV. About the Piece, V. Music History, VI. Facts to Remember, and VII. Listen Again with a brief review from 5&6. Again the intent is a multum non multa approach, so that students will truly know these selections - and possibly a little music theory - when we finish. As always, we encourage students age 9 and up to begin singing chorally or learn to play an instrument for the greatest benefit of music for the mind. This course serves as a deeper study than we have attempted in the past, but the familiarity from previous levels will assist our students.

              I hope that helps to clarify along with Michael's good clarifications!

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                #37
                Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                And while we have been chatting, Allie added the free playlist to our master list.

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                  #38
                  Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                  Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
                  In the K-2 and previous SC levels, we have been listening to whole pieces.

                  In Music Appreciation, the course covers much more. Scroll to page 5 for a sample lesson. We have divided this course into "basic" (5&6) and "advanced" (7&8). For the basic studies, we will cover the name of the piece, the composer, I. Listen, and II. A Little History.

                  In 7&8, we will listen to hand-picked portions available only on the CD to illustrate III. Musical Concept. We will also cover IV. About the Piece, V. Music History, VI. Facts to Remember, and VII. Listen Again with a brief review from 5&6. Again the intent is a multum non multa approach, so that students will truly know these selections - and possibly a little music theory - when we finish. As always, we encourage students age 9 and up to begin singing chorally or learn to play an instrument for the greatest benefit of music for the mind. This course serves as a deeper study than we have attempted in the past, but the familiarity from previous levels will assist our students.

                  I hope that helps to clarify along with Michael's good clarifications!
                  The "lights" are finally on! I looked at the sample page, and with your description of what is being worked on in each level, I get it!

                  (I've had a terrible ear infection I can't seem to get to go away (new dose of meds started today), so my head is a little in the clouds, trying to absorb all this has had my head spinning)
                  Christine

                  (2019/2020)
                  DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                  DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                  DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                  Previous Years
                  DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                  DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                  DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                    #39
                    Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                    Creating Art and Poetry for the Grammar Stage will be used over more than one set of levels, as well, correct?

                    ETA: I know math, Music, and Latin will be carrying over to 7-8, while science will not. It sounds like spelling and writing will not. Will they be moving on to Geography I or staying with States and Capitals? It sounds like they will be done with States and Capitals after 5-6, but not sure. That leaves Grammar and Greek Myths.

                    Would it ever be possible to include a sample of the last week of the Curriculum Manuals? Some of them begin deceptively easy, like Traditional Spelling I, but then progress rapidly.
                    Last edited by Miah; 12-07-2018, 03:56 PM.
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                    Evulcarrot - 18, freshman in college, Medical Technology , mild autism
                    Battlebroccoli - 17, lives with grandma, attends a special high school program part time
                    Doomsprout - 10, highly verbal moderate autism, anxiety, motor delays, sensory processing issues - SC 4 with R&S 4

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                      #40
                      Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                      Originally posted by Miah View Post
                      Creating Art and Poetry for the Grammar Stage will be used over more than one set of levels, as well, correct?

                      ETA: I know math, Music, and Latin will be carrying over to 7-8, while science will not. It sounds like spelling and writing will not. Will they be moving on to Geography I or staying with States and Capitals? It sounds like they will be done with States and Capitals after 5-6, but not sure. That leaves Grammar and Greek Myths.

                      Would it ever be possible to include a sample of the last week of the Curriculum Manuals? Some of them begin deceptively easy, like Traditional Spelling I, but then progress rapidly.
                      I was trying to remember this as well.

                      I think Latin, EGR I, Christian Studies I and Greek Myths will carry over to 7/8. (The equivalent to the MP 3/ MP 4 progression.)
                      Christine

                      (2019/2020)
                      DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                      DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                      DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                      Previous Years
                      DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                      DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                      DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                        #41
                        Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                        Originally posted by Colomama View Post
                        I want the one year pace, but with all the fun games. Ha!
                        The games and instructions are actually included in both CMs. The games are simply scheduled more often in the Two-Year pace.
                        Michael
                        Memoria Press

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                          #42
                          Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                          Originally posted by Michael View Post
                          The games and instructions are actually included in both CMs. The games are simply scheduled more often in the Two-Year pace.
                          So helpful!
                          Christine

                          (2019/2020)
                          DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                          DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                          DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                          Previous Years
                          DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                          DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                          DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                            #43
                            Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                            When time permits, we'll share an overview of 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 so you can see the full progression. Eventually we may include a full curriculum map in the Simply Classical Journal, just as in The Classical Teacher.

                            For 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 we intend to cover much of the correlated material in MP Third-Sixth. This is one reason we chose to conduct some material orally, so we could hasten the pace in order to complete the full progression.

                            We finish all of these in 5&6:
                            Creating Art
                            EGR I
                            Chr St I
                            TS Spelling 2
                            R&S Arithmetic 3
                            States & Capitals I
                            R&S Science 3
                            Core Skills: Language Arts: 3
                            D'Aulaires' Greek Myths
                            Intro to Composition
                            5 Literature Selections
                            NAC 3
                            My Thankfulness Journal
                            Courage & a Clear Mind (Greece)



                            We continue these into 7&8:
                            Music Appreciation
                            Latina Christiana
                            Poetry & the Grammar Stage
                            Golden Children's Bible
                            Timeline

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                              #44
                              Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                              Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
                              When time permits, we'll share an overview of 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 so you can see the full progression. Eventually we may include a full curriculum map in the Simply Classical Journal, just as in The Classical Teacher.

                              For 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 we intend to cover much of the correlated material in MP Third-Sixth. This is one reason we chose to conduct some material orally, so we could hasten the pace in order to complete the full progression.

                              We finish all of these in 5&6:
                              Creating Art
                              EGR I
                              Chr St I
                              TS Spelling 2
                              R&S Arithmetic 3
                              States & Capitals I
                              R&S Science 3
                              Core Skills: Language Arts: 3
                              D'Aulaires' Greek Myths
                              Intro to Composition
                              5 Literature Selections
                              NAC 3
                              My Thankfulness Journal
                              Courage & a Clear Mind (Greece)



                              We continue these into 7&8:
                              Music Appreciation
                              Latina Christiana
                              Poetry & the Grammar Stage
                              Golden Children's Bible
                              Timeline
                              Ohhhh! I thought in previous threads it was said that Greek Myths and Christian Studies would be completed over 5/6 and 7/8. MP does that in 3/4. I misunderstood!

                              That makes my choice easier. I was thinking with 5/6 we would still not be done with those subjects and I would have to be working two manuals. THIS will keep us at SC for another year! I will still need to decide on spelling, but I will wait until we finish TS2 before “worrying” about that! I really like having only 1/2 of LC done. It is all coming together here now! Ha!

                              What are your thoughts again on the Ludere supplement? Here, I am specific to my oldest. We plan to work in a group again. You mentioned some challenges with it.
                              Christine

                              (2019/2020)
                              DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                              DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                              DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                              Previous Years
                              DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                              DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                              DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                                #45
                                Re: SC 5 & 6 is Here!

                                The announcement email said shipping was free for SC 5/6. I only need the CG as I ordered the other components I needed last month. Is there a free shipping code I need to enter or is it free shipping only if I order the whole set?

                                Anxiously waiting to push "buy" on my shopping cart 😁
                                Married to DH for 14 years. Living the rural life in the Colorado mountains

                                DS11- Simply Classical 5/6
                                DD9- Simply Classical 5/6 (neurotypical, but schooling with big brother to save mom's sanity)
                                DD 6- Classic Core First Grade

                                We've completed:
                                Classic Core Jr. kindergarten, kindergarten, first grade, and second grade.
                                Simply Classical levels B, C, 1, 2, 3, and 4.

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