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**ElThom07** · 08-09-2018, 07:23 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

So the extended lit portion of this curriculum is going to be the same books used in Simply Classical 3?

**howiecram** · 08-10-2018, 07:58 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

What about Ludere Latin? I hear this is a great addition to LC? Too hard for SC kids?

**cherylswope** · 08-10-2018, 03:12 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by ElThom07 View Post

So the extended lit portion of this curriculum is going to be the same books used in Simply Classical 3?

Yes. If returning students heard these only as read-alouds, they can now read them as "readers." Many will be two years older now and will glean more from them than they did the first time through. This will give oral reading practice along with the American history overview.

Some 5 & 6 students come to us "brand new" and never read these or heard these. This will provide new oral reading practice along with the American history insights and information.

This is optional, however. Our SC 5&6 students will be reading daily in Literature. For different oral reading practice, if you did not want the American history selections, your Extended Lit books could come from this Supplemental Reading List. If you are working on fluency without the need for intensive pre-reading phonics, you might choose a level beneath the student's placement.

**cherylswope** · 08-10-2018, 03:22 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by howiecram View Post

What about Ludere Latin? I hear this is a great addition to LC? Too hard for SC kids?

We loved Ludere Latine at our house, but with special needs it is VERY teacher-intensive, especially with the puzzles requiring grammar forms specific to tense, persons, and number.

For 7&8, we plan to have a Simply Classical Ludere Latine that will review 5&6 and provide puzzles for 7&8.

Michael Simpson & I discussed this possibility several months ago. We're eager to make this available. If it is ready sooner than 7&8, we will let everyone know.

In the meantime, Ludere Latine might be considered an optional supplement, but know ahead of time that this would become your new "hobby" alongside homeschooling. If you like puzzles and you enjoy Latin, this might be fine! However, in keeping with the strong desire to have everything completely teachable, we will not add the original Ludere Latine to the book list at this time.

**howiecram** · 08-10-2018, 03:54 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by cherylswope View Post

We loved Ludere Latine at our house, but with special needs it is VERY teacher-intensive, especially with the puzzles requiring grammar forms specific to tense, persons, and number.

For 7&8, we plan to have a Simply Classical Ludere Latine that will review 5&6 and provide puzzles for 7&8.

Michael Simpson & I discussed this possibility several months ago. We're eager to make this available. If it is ready sooner than 7&8, we will let everyone know.

In the meantime, Ludere Latine might be considered an optional supplement, but know ahead of time that this would become your new "hobby" alongside homeschooling. If you like puzzles and you enjoy Latin, this might be fine! However, in keeping with the strong desire to have everything completely teachable, we will not add the original Ludere Latine to the book list at this time.

That sounds great!

**Colomama** · 08-15-2018, 11:54 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Cheryl, can you describe how R&S Science is used? Looks like there's a group read section followed by independent reading. Is the plan to follow that?

Do we have a publish timeline? We are basically doing this level right now. I had never thought of eliminating the lit guides, but I had already decided to scribe a lot of the other elements like Greek Myths to reduce writing.

**howiecram** · 08-16-2018, 08:17 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by Colomama View Post

Cheryl, can you describe how R&S Science is used? Looks like there's a group read section followed by independent reading. Is the plan to follow that?

Do we have a publish timeline? We are basically doing this level right now. I had never thought of eliminating the lit guides, but I had already decided to scribe a lot of the other elements like Greek Myths to reduce writing.

Good questions! Also curious your thoughts on the Poetry for the Grammar stage used in MP 3-7, I believe?

**cherylswope** · 08-16-2018, 09:38 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Science --
We are NOT requiring the "Independent Reading" to be independent unless the student is capable of both decoding and comprehending at the required reading level. Instead, the terms and concepts in those portions should be taught in the same manner as the section that comes before it in every lesson. You might be able to manage a paragraph of his rereading what you read (here and there), and this would be a good way to review the material while having him read.

We schedule this over at least two days to ensure that at least one activity or experiment is conducted each week. You can choose ahead of time to give yourself opportunity to gather needed materials. Usually they are household items.

Poetry for Grammar Stage --
We include this in small doses in 5 & 6, scheduled just like MP Third, interspersed among fiction.

Release Date --
That is a Tanya question!

**howiecram** · 08-16-2018, 12:55 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by cherylswope View Post

Poetry for Grammar Stage --
We include this in small doses in 5 & 6, scheduled just like MP Third, interspersed among fiction.

Is there a book? I feel like I am not seeing this on the book list?

**cherylswope** · 08-16-2018, 06:27 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Ah, you are correct! It is on my list at home but somehow I did not transfer it to the master list. You will need both the Poetry for the Grammar Stage Teacher Manual and Poetry for the Grammar Stage Student Book.

As you mentioned, this set -- along with many of the books -- will be used for several years. We could not skimp on the student book for poetry, because more written engagement will be needed from the student in the poetry studies. I remain hopeful that costs with the SC 5&6, 7&8 plan will be lower for our families in the end!

**cherylswope** · 08-16-2018, 06:29 PM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

P.S. You will now find those books on the master list above. Thanks for catching that, Christine!

**Michael** · 08-17-2018, 08:48 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by cherylswope View Post

Release Date -- That is a Tanya question!

I'm not Tanya, but she's out all week so I'm going to hijack

We are hoping to have SC 5&6 ready to release in late fall or early winter.

HTH!

**jejegreer** · 08-26-2018, 12:10 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Do you think we can combine SC 3 & SC 4? I would love that combo because then we can do the accelerated version of 5-6 for 5th grade, 7-8 for 6th grade, and 9-10 for 7th grade, and then Clara is only one year behind. I can deal with being a year behind. I am THRILLED that you have the accelerated version. Also, if you are transitioning from MP regular to SC starting with 5-6, would you be ready to do SC 5-6 after MP 2nd grade? I am still debating between 2nd grade and SC 3. There is too much writing in MP 2, but the reading is too easy in SC3. SC 3 writing is on target, 2nd grade math is going to be a bit easy, but OK since I bought the 2nd grade lesson plans and we will do the entirety of Math 2 this year, and spelling is concerning me still because the sole thing that has not worked for us in the SC curriculum is the spelling books. I bought Spelling Workout A and B to complete both this year instead of SC Spelling. I could order Traditional Spelling 1 and just use it through the year if there was a combined SC3-4 accelerated plan. I cannot ever thank you enough for providing a means to teach Clara to read. She reads the newspaper and chapter books like Magic Treehouse and the 13-Story Treehouse and Nancy Clancy for fun. It is remarkable how you used the curriculum to make it all understandable to her. Clara wants to be a veterinarian so the accelerated curriculum will be absolutely fabulous for her, and I think that maybe I should combine SC 3 and SC 4 instead of doing MP 2 now that I hear this idea.

**howiecram** · 08-26-2018, 10:56 AM

Re: SC 5-6 Book List

Originally posted by jejegreer View Post

Do you think we can combine SC 3 & SC 4? I would love that combo because then we can do the accelerated version of 5-6 for 5th grade, 7-8 for 6th grade, and 9-10 for 7th grade, and then Clara is only one year behind. I can deal with being a year behind. I am THRILLED that you have the accelerated version. Also, if you are transitioning from MP regular to SC starting with 5-6, would you be ready to do SC 5-6 after MP 2nd grade? I am still debating between 2nd grade and SC 3. There is too much writing in MP 2, but the reading is too easy in SC3. SC 3 writing is on target, 2nd grade math is going to be a bit easy, but OK since I bought the 2nd grade lesson plans and we will do the entirety of Math 2 this year, and spelling is concerning me still because the sole thing that has not worked for us in the SC curriculum is the spelling books. I bought Spelling Workout A and B to complete both this year instead of SC Spelling. I could order Traditional Spelling 1 and just use it through the year if there was a combined SC3-4 accelerated plan. I cannot ever thank you enough for providing a means to teach Clara to read. She reads the newspaper and chapter books like Magic Treehouse and the 13-Story Treehouse and Nancy Clancy for fun. It is remarkable how you used the curriculum to make it all understandable to her. Clara wants to be a veterinarian so the accelerated curriculum will be absolutely fabulous for her, and I think that maybe I should combine SC 3 and SC 4 instead of doing MP 2 now that I hear this idea.

I think that in your situation, I would consider SC3 Bible + Bible writing with SC3 Enrichment (no writing book) + Traditional Spelling 1 (SC4). The SC3 Enrichment "read alouds" could be used as the literature this year. You and Clara would team read the books (I bought two sets so we each had one). They are quite challenging! There are a few "picture" books sprinkled throughout, but these provided much relief from the harder "Childhood of x famous person". In the 1st semester those longer books are scheduled over 2 weeks. In the 2nd, in only 1 week. We could never finish them in less than 3. (We set a timer and just read together for 20 min. You might be able to do 30?)

Now, where is she at in cursive? Does she need NAC1, or NAC2? (Not addressing math in this post since I know you are debating that one)

The recitations from SC3 would likely be appropriate. She might be able to move to SC5/6 but you should wait until you see how this year goes before determining that path. I like the idea of the 5/6 in a year, but I suspect we might be more like 18 months (with my daughter). Again, I won't know until we get into it, but I don't want to set us up for failure thinking we can do it in 1 year, when really she might need the full 2!

We tried MP2 for about 3 weeks. We quickly came back to SC3 and "just" finished it, as written. (We did SC3 1st semester then I thought, oh, we have got this and moved over to MP2.......) Additionally we tried to do the Bible and History writing. I was focusing on checking boxes and not the quality of work. I wish we would have only done 1 and done it well! (she did ok, but it could have been better)

Good luck!

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