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    Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

    I'm jumping on the bandwagon for assistance for this summer/fall for my crew.

    Background: I have twin boys, age 10, who just completed MP2 at the Cottage School and did beautifully. My Thomas has mild dyslexia and mild to moderate dysgraphia (dyslexic and executive types), while his twin brother has auditory processing disorder.

    Our plans for the fall, currently:
    LC
    Lit 3
    Greek Myths
    All Things Fun and Fascinating + EGR 1

    These will be done at the Cottage School, so a regular school year schedule. I will be pre-reading with them at home before school starts. They're familiar with the Lit package and Greek Myths, since we studied this with Rachel back in 3rd grade. We already have all of them on Audible, so that's a big help, too.


    Combination of R&S 3/ Teaching Textbooks 3

    Christian Studies 1 - I plan to begin this over the summer, as a family (we never finished it with Rachel), and just progress through slowly. This will be done mostly orally, with writing out some of the most important answers so that they stay in good practice with creating sentences.

    Science --- I'm actually OK with not having anything formal going on for them at the moment. I have everything I need for Mammals (TM, SG, the books), so we could do this following the SC4 plans. I'd start in the summer, then progress slowly throughout the year. Can someone (Christine, Cheryl) explain how the SC4 approach is different than the MP3 plan?

    I was planning to start States and Capitals this summer, using the 3A plans, but am I understanding that SC4 States and Capitals is oral, along with the sticker book? Then add the workbook in the following year and review?

    I've already gone through this level before, so I'm fairly comfortable with it. (with the exception of ATFF)

    Are parts of SC4 helpful to us, or do I just need to break down each class and look at what we're going to need? For Lit 3 and Greek Myths, we have audio books for listening ahead of class time, then again at home to help out for re-reading. I'm not familiar with ATFF at all, but everything I've read says it works well for dyslexic students.

    For LC, could we utilize some of the games in SC4 for review/reinforcement? They did very well in Prima this year, and enjoy Latin tremendously.

    Thoughts? And please know that I appreciate your help, even though I detest being vulnerable and having to ask for assistance.
    Plans for 2019-20
    DD #1 : 24, heading to Chase Law School NKU Fall 2019
    DD #2 : 13 8A: HLS Cottage School Louisville, MPOA
    DS #3 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
    DS #4 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
    DD #5: 7, MP 2 at home, HLS Cottage School Louisville
    DS #6: 5, MP K at home

    [url]www.thekennedyadventures.com/all-about-our-memoria-press-homeschool[/url]

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    Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

    Originally posted by DiannaKennedy View Post
    I'm jumping on the bandwagon for assistance for this summer/fall for my crew.

    Background: I have twin boys, age 10, who just completed MP2 at the Cottage School and did beautifully. My Thomas has mild dyslexia and mild to moderate dysgraphia (dyslexic and executive types), while his twin brother has auditory processing disorder.

    Our plans for the fall, currently:
    LC
    Lit 3
    Greek Myths
    All Things Fun and Fascinating + EGR 1

    These will be done at the Cottage School, so a regular school year schedule. I will be pre-reading with them at home before school starts. They're familiar with the Lit package and Greek Myths, since we studied this with Rachel back in 3rd grade. We already have all of them on Audible, so that's a big help, too.


    Combination of R&S 3/ Teaching Textbooks 3

    Christian Studies 1 - I plan to begin this over the summer, as a family (we never finished it with Rachel), and just progress through slowly. This will be done mostly orally, with writing out some of the most important answers so that they stay in good practice with creating sentences.

    Science --- I'm actually OK with not having anything formal going on for them at the moment. I have everything I need for Mammals (TM, SG, the books), so we could do this following the SC4 plans. I'd start in the summer, then progress slowly throughout the year. Can someone (Christine, Cheryl) explain how the SC4 approach is different than the MP3 plan?

    I was planning to start States and Capitals this summer, using the 3A plans, but am I understanding that SC4 States and Capitals is oral, along with the sticker book? Then add the workbook in the following year and review?

    I've already gone through this level before, so I'm fairly comfortable with it. (with the exception of ATFF)

    Are parts of SC4 helpful to us, or do I just need to break down each class and look at what we're going to need? For Lit 3 and Greek Myths, we have audio books for listening ahead of class time, then again at home to help out for re-reading. I'm not familiar with ATFF at all, but everything I've read says it works well for dyslexic students.

    For LC, could we utilize some of the games in SC4 for review/reinforcement? They did very well in Prima this year, and enjoy Latin tremendously.

    Thoughts? And please know that I appreciate your help, even though I detest being vulnerable and having to ask for assistance.

    All of this looks great! You've already taught MP 3, so you know the material.

    Latin - yes, add in any of the SC 4 Prima games for LC review. If you have SC 4 Latin plans, you are set. You will do for LC whatever worked well for Prima.


    Science - compare/contrast between MP 3 and SC 4.
    1. Division of work by day: Same
    What you see in the MP 3 lesson plans is the same as in SC 4.
    First day - lessons, reading. Second day - drawing, review.

    2. Scheduling: Different
    MP 3 Mammals is scheduled Wed/Fri.
    SC 4 Mammals is scheduled Tues/Wed for back-to-back instruction and review.
    (You can easily make this simple switch yourself, if this works better for you.)

    3. Extras: Different
    SC 4 adds "Mammals Close Up" with My Nature Journal and extra activities.

    States & Capitals
    Yes, you are right. MP 3 covers regions, maps, writing the names of states, and more.
    SC 4 remains largely oral. We learn the 50 states & capitals, play states/capital games, chant names of presidents, read the state's entry in Don't Know Much About the 50 States, locate and color the state on a full US map, and use the US sticker map. Spreading out the study, we tackle the written work & more extensive map work from MP 3 States & Capitals in SC 5-6.


    You're not overly vulnerable, btw. You're just being smart by seeking a sounding board here. After all, most of us can't really ask our next-door neighbors about these things.

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      #3
      Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

      Originally posted by DiannaKennedy View Post
      I'm jumping on the bandwagon for assistance for this summer/fall for my crew.

      Background: I have twin boys, age 10, who just completed MP2 at the Cottage School and did beautifully. My Thomas has mild dyslexia and mild to moderate dysgraphia (dyslexic and executive types), while his twin brother has auditory processing disorder.

      Our plans for the fall, currently:
      LC
      Lit 3
      Greek Myths
      All Things Fun and Fascinating + EGR 1

      These will be done at the Cottage School, so a regular school year schedule. I will be pre-reading with them at home before school starts. They're familiar with the Lit package and Greek Myths, since we studied this with Rachel back in 3rd grade. We already have all of them on Audible, so that's a big help, too.


      Combination of R&S 3/ Teaching Textbooks 3

      Christian Studies 1 - I plan to begin this over the summer, as a family (we never finished it with Rachel), and just progress through slowly. This will be done mostly orally, with writing out some of the most important answers so that they stay in good practice with creating sentences.

      Science --- I'm actually OK with not having anything formal going on for them at the moment. I have everything I need for Mammals (TM, SG, the books), so we could do this following the SC4 plans. I'd start in the summer, then progress slowly throughout the year. Can someone (Christine, Cheryl) explain how the SC4 approach is different than the MP3 plan?

      I was planning to start States and Capitals this summer, using the 3A plans, but am I understanding that SC4 States and Capitals is oral, along with the sticker book? Then add the workbook in the following year and review?

      I've already gone through this level before, so I'm fairly comfortable with it. (with the exception of ATFF)

      Are parts of SC4 helpful to us, or do I just need to break down each class and look at what we're going to need? For Lit 3 and Greek Myths, we have audio books for listening ahead of class time, then again at home to help out for re-reading. I'm not familiar with ATFF at all, but everything I've read says it works well for dyslexic students.

      For LC, could we utilize some of the games in SC4 for review/reinforcement? They did very well in Prima this year, and enjoy Latin tremendously.

      Thoughts? And please know that I appreciate your help, even though I detest being vulnerable and having to ask for assistance.
      Dianna, I would love to know the answers to all of this, as well. My two (dyslexia, dysgraphia, ADD, anxiety) did great in MP2, but MP3 was a different story. The amount of content was much greater, and the handwriting expectation was huge for my kids.

      We did use ATFF, and my dyslexic did fine with it, except for the actual writing, which I had to do. I scribed for him and then had him write the first and last sentence. As an aside, my oldest (also dyslexic, dysgraphic) loved SWI-B in middle school. We used the DVDs, and it was awesome. Andrew Pudewa is always a hit here!

      I could have written your last sentence myself, lol. I always have a concern for my children's privacy in my mind, and I also feel inadequate for not being able to figure everything out on my own. Silly, I know.
      Gina
      Honored & Blessed to be teaching my children at home
      (since 2001)

      DS-sophomore in college
      DD-soon-to-be college freshman!
      DD-9
      DS-8

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        #4
        Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

        Someone else will need to chime in about ATFF. I have not yet looked at it, nor have I taught it. I will need to examine it closely for SC 5-6, but I have not yet done this.

        Dianna, you might consider CS: LA 1 and LA 2, which we use in SC 4. This reviews and expands upon everything from SC Writing One, which I think your boys appreciated. The format is easy to follow. They could (and should) do the writing themselves.

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          #5
          Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

          Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
          Someone else will need to chime in about ATFF. I have not yet looked at it, nor have I taught it. I will need to examine it closely for SC 5-6, but I have not yet done this.

          Dianna, you might consider CS: LA 1 and LA 2, which we use in SC 4. This reviews and expands upon everything from SC Writing One, which I think your boys appreciated. The format is easy to follow. They could (and should) do the writing themselves.

          If you like this idea, you would want the Individual SC 4 Composition & Grammar plans. I rather painstakingly combined CS LA 1 & 2 by topic, so you would not need to do this yourself. For example, when covering periods, we study CS LA 1 p. 67 and CS LA 2, p. 57. They get the benefit of the introductory simplicity of CS LA 1 with the additional information provided in CS LA 2. At the end of each week of Composition & Grammar in SC 4, we play a learning/review game or have a Delve Deeply activity. In this way, Composition & Grammar are taught Mon-Thurs with the extra, optional activity on Friday.


          Among other topics, by Week 25 we are covering/reviewing Main Idea, our focus in SC Writing Two.

          We start very basic to cover everything thoroughly, but by the end of SC 4, students write how-to paragraphs, narrative paragraphs, and letters through CS LA 1 & 2.

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            #6
            Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

            Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
            If you like this idea, you would want the Individual SC 4 Composition & Grammar plans. I rather painstakingly combined CS LA 1 & 2 by topic, so you would not need to do this yourself. For example, when covering periods, we study CS LA 1 p. 67 and CS LA 2, p. 57. They get the benefit of the introductory simplicity of CS LA 1 with the additional information provided in CS LA 2. At the end of each week of Composition & Grammar in SC 4, we play a learning/review game or have a Delve Deeply activity. In this way, Composition & Grammar are taught Mon-Thurs with the extra, optional activity on Friday.


            Among other topics, by Week 25 we are covering/reviewing Main Idea, our focus in SC Writing Two.

            We start very basic to cover everything thoroughly, but by the end of SC 4, students write how-to paragraphs, narrative paragraphs, and letters through CS LA 1 & 2.
            Cheryl,
            Are the Composition and Grammar plans available separate from the literature or only in combination? I had already purchased CSLA2 for my daughter but if you have planned it with CSLA1 I think that would provide her even more practice, as she does best with over teaching. I do not need the literature plans, as I have the MP2 manual that we are using for those.

            -Laura
            2018-2019
            DD8, MP2/SC4
            DD6, MPK
            DD4, SC-C

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              #7
              Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

              Originally posted by ljallen44 View Post
              Cheryl,
              Are the Composition and Grammar plans available separate from the literature or only in combination? I had already purchased CSLA2 for my daughter but if you have planned it with CSLA1 I think that would provide her even more practice, as she does best with over teaching. I do not need the literature plans, as I have the MP2 manual that we are using for those.

              -Laura
              The plans are a combined literature and CSLA 1&2 program. It would be a bit of an overcharge if it were just a separate plan for literature and CSLA 1&2 each. You get more value for your money with a combined Lit and CSLA plan. However, the Literature plans are not unwieldy and can either be physically cut out or simply whited-out (or ignored).
              Boy Wonder: 10, MP2/SC4 (Special Needs)
              Joy Bubble: 8, MP2 (Special Needs)
              Snuggly Cowboy: 6, MPK
              Sweet Lightness: 2, Reverse-Engineering Specialist

              “Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.”
              ~Pope St John Paul II

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                #8
                Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                Thanks Anita. Because I don't need the lit piece I don't want to spend $12 just on the plans for the language arts worksheets. I'll just piece it together myself or consider purchasing the whole manual. Or I may just go through CSLA 1 first, then follow it with CSLA 2. Too many choices! I think eventually I'll want the SC4 enrichment, but this year we're doing MP2 enrichment. It's always nice to have options!

                -Laura
                2018-2019
                DD8, MP2/SC4
                DD6, MPK
                DD4, SC-C

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                  #9
                  Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                  Laura, I would like for you to have those Comp & Grammar plans. I think it will be more efficient for you than working through both books consecutively.

                  I'll ask Monday if we can separate those from Lit. Sometimes they are just grouped for convenience.

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                    #10
                    Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                    Thank you Cheryl. I bought the full MP2 core but am subbing in some SC things. We're really not on track for a core on either side, which I know is fairly common. I had purchased the SC4 digital latin plans for the extra supports, so I sent an email to see if they would apply that $8 toward the purchase of the full SC4 curriculum manual. I'm not sure if that's something they will do but I thought I'd ask.

                    As I hear you all talk about SC4 I think the enrichment with Mammals and myths would be great for us after MP2 enrichment. So at this point I think I should just buy that manual instead of more digital plans in pieces. I'm coming to realize I just need to invest in manuals on both sides and piece together where we are in each subject. I make life harder on myself by resisting and trying to get fully into one core somewhere.

                    I agree, I think I should follow your plans for the composition and grammar. They always seem to be just what we need. If they can't separate it I'll either buy them as is or buy the manual. We're starting back up after Jully 4th so I'm trying to finalize all my plans.

                    -Laura
                    2018-2019
                    DD8, MP2/SC4
                    DD6, MPK
                    DD4, SC-C

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                      #11
                      Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                      Originally posted by ljallen44 View Post

                      As I hear you all talk about SC4 I think the enrichment with Mammals and myths would be great for us after MP2 enrichment. So at this point I think I should just buy that manual instead of more digital plans in pieces. I'm coming to realize I just need to invest in manuals on both sides and piece together where we are in each subject. I make life harder on myself by resisting and trying to get fully into one core somewhere.
                      Have you ever looked at the Editable planners? This is what I do in my home, since my boys have therapies, activities, etc, and are working out of two different cores.


                      I print out the first 6 weeks or so, then hole punch and put in my big 3 ring binder. I then fill in the assignment blocks by hand --- I use the planner as a life planner, really, as I also add in therapy sessions, sports practices, etc. It helps me to have everything in one spot, instead of me having to drag out multiple manuals, etc. I take the teacher tips from the SC manuals and copy them, then stick them in with the weekly plans.

                      When I get home, I can take a pic and upload it. Or if you come to Sodalitas, I'm going to have it with me.
                      Plans for 2019-20
                      DD #1 : 24, heading to Chase Law School NKU Fall 2019
                      DD #2 : 13 8A: HLS Cottage School Louisville, MPOA
                      DS #3 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                      DS #4 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                      DD #5: 7, MP 2 at home, HLS Cottage School Louisville
                      DS #6: 5, MP K at home

                      [url]www.thekennedyadventures.com/all-about-our-memoria-press-homeschool[/url]

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                        #12
                        Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                        Dianna,
                        I've heard about them but I've never considered using them. I've done something similar on my own, although as my oldest gets closer to independent work I should probably start doing it that way so we can share the plans and check boxes as things get done.

                        So, do you buy only digital plans then? If I've already purchased 2nd grade manual would I need to repurchase digital plans to do that?

                        No Sodalitas for me--we're taking a 10 day road trip to Great Smoky Mountain National Park next week with all my family. But I'm very hopeful next year I'll finally get to attend!

                        -Laura

                        ETA: I just re-read and see you fill them in by hand, not from digital plans. Maybe this would work for me so I could work out of the manuals I have. These do look like a great option. I'd love a picture whenever you have time.
                        2018-2019
                        DD8, MP2/SC4
                        DD6, MPK
                        DD4, SC-C

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                          #13
                          Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                          Originally posted by cherylswope View Post
                          Someone else will need to chime in about ATFF. I have not yet looked at it, nor have I taught it. I will need to examine it closely for SC 5-6, but I have not yet done this.

                          Dianna, you might consider CS: LA 1 and LA 2, which we use in SC 4. This reviews and expands upon everything from SC Writing One, which I think your boys appreciated. The format is easy to follow. They could (and should) do the writing themselves.
                          I think I'll shoot Tanya an email and ask about ATFF. As in, are there certain checkpoints kids need to meet before attempting ATFF? I know I will likely end up scribing for Thomas, for sure.

                          I THINK I might actually have LA 1 and LA2 at home already from various packages. I went ahead and ordered the SC4 TM, so am I correct in assuming the plans for those are contained within?
                          Plans for 2019-20
                          DD #1 : 24, heading to Chase Law School NKU Fall 2019
                          DD #2 : 13 8A: HLS Cottage School Louisville, MPOA
                          DS #3 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                          DS #4 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                          DD #5: 7, MP 2 at home, HLS Cottage School Louisville
                          DS #6: 5, MP K at home

                          [url]www.thekennedyadventures.com/all-about-our-memoria-press-homeschool[/url]

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                            #14
                            Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                            Originally posted by Gigi View Post
                            Dianna, I would love to know the answers to all of this, as well. My two (dyslexia, dysgraphia, ADD, anxiety) did great in MP2, but MP3 was a different story. The amount of content was much greater, and the handwriting expectation was huge for my kids.

                            We did use ATFF, and my dyslexic did fine with it, except for the actual writing, which I had to do. I scribed for him and then had him write the first and last sentence. As an aside, my oldest (also dyslexic, dysgraphic) loved SWI-B in middle school. We used the DVDs, and it was awesome. Andrew Pudewa is always a hit here!

                            I could have written your last sentence myself, lol. I always have a concern for my children's privacy in my mind, and I also feel inadequate for not being able to figure everything out on my own. Silly, I know.
                            I'm hoping that by getting a headstart on some of the content, we will be able to handle it. (ex: they have already listened to Greek Myths, CW, FB, and the Moffats, as they are family favorites) I already know that scribing is going to be in my future.

                            And yes, inadequacy and perfectionism are badges that I wear, not so proudly. I'm entering into my 8th year of homeschooling, when you 'should' have all your ducks in a row, smooth sailing, etc. Adjusting to the boys' diagnoses gave my homeschooling self-esteem a wallop.
                            Plans for 2019-20
                            DD #1 : 24, heading to Chase Law School NKU Fall 2019
                            DD #2 : 13 8A: HLS Cottage School Louisville, MPOA
                            DS #3 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                            DS #4 : 11 4A + Simply Classical 5/6; HLS Cottage School Louisville
                            DD #5: 7, MP 2 at home, HLS Cottage School Louisville
                            DS #6: 5, MP K at home

                            [url]www.thekennedyadventures.com/all-about-our-memoria-press-homeschool[/url]

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                              #15
                              Re: Tips for adjusting MP3 for students with dyslexia,dysgraphia and APD?

                              Originally posted by DiannaKennedy View Post
                              I'm hoping that by getting a headstart on some of the content, we will be able to handle it. (ex: they have already listened to Greek Myths, CW, FB, and the Moffats, as they are family favorites) I already know that scribing is going to be in my future.

                              And yes, inadequacy and perfectionism are badges that I wear, not so proudly. I'm entering into my 8th year of homeschooling, when you 'should' have all your ducks in a row, smooth sailing, etc. Adjusting to the boys' diagnoses gave my homeschooling self-esteem a wallop.
                              Humility is the mother of all the virtues, no? I’ve stated many times that my children were given to me specifically to develop my character so I can be a Saint . I’d also be pretty boring without them.
                              Boy Wonder: 10, MP2/SC4 (Special Needs)
                              Joy Bubble: 8, MP2 (Special Needs)
                              Snuggly Cowboy: 6, MPK
                              Sweet Lightness: 2, Reverse-Engineering Specialist

                              “Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.”
                              ~Pope St John Paul II

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