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    #46
    Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

    Originally posted by pickandgrin View Post
    Michael...wielding his powers for good!
    Because what good is having power if you don't use it to change the word.
    Debbie- mom of 7, civil engineering grad, married to mechanical engineer
    DD, 25, BFA '17 graphic design and illustration
    DS, 23, BS '18 mechanical engineering
    DS, 21, chemistry major
    DS, 18, Physics major
    DD, 15, dyslexic, 10th grade customizednMP plus co-op
    DS, 12, super squirmy, possible dysgraphia, MP 7A
    DD, 6 , K- finally one who seems to like drawing and writing- first one since my oldest!

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      #47
      Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

      Originally posted by Maria2 View Post
      Michael I knew I liked you. From this day forth you shall be my superhero and resident knight in shining armour. I dub you "Grammarman."
      *blushes and hides in embarrassment*
      Michael
      Memoria Press

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        #48
        Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

        Originally posted by KF2000 View Post

        Are you saying that if you change your educational expectations (drawing your original question), it gives you the chance to participate in activities with others, interact with them, and thereby expose them to a way of life they otherwise would not see? And that this opportunity may be worth the educational changes you made in order for it take place? But, that you struggle to know how much of this to do without sacrificing too much? Am I rephrasing you correctly?

        AMDG,
        Sarah
        Originally posted by Maria2 View Post
        That is very well said. Yes, I guess that is a side issue or one part of what is at the bottom of some of these musings, not just for myself, but as a question on what the proper Christian response in general, might be- in all honesty I am not that altruistic, that is, I wouldn't be willing to give up what I believe is best for my kids, (and I DO believe in classical education!) unless I was convinced that what they got in return had equal or greater value, growth in virtue, for example. But some of these things are impossible to measure, anyway. Still, I'm not going to put them in school, for example, just so that they can have the opportunity to evangelize the culture, because the potential evil outweighs the potential good.. and I don't agree with that approach, anyway, since they are children, although some people I know do indeed think this way, and I respect them. But I do believe it is quite often wrong to isolate or "refuse to be leaven" as a type of self-preservation, and this is my temptation as a classical homeschooler. And it's easy to just live with that choice or justify it as giving a better education, since certain things that I believe in like Latin study for example, will naturally isolate us, when no one else except for people who think exactly like I do, is interested anyway. Does that make any sense?
        HI again, Maria!
        I have been pondering on your concern since yesterday, and I want you to know that it is one that is close to my heart as well. I mentioned up thread that I don't make decisions easily - especially if I have too many choices from which to pick. When I personally think about all the various ways that we can/should be of service to others, the range of options is rather paralyzing for me. I don't know where to begin. This, along with the reality of having age-appropriate options for our entire brood. I am not a person who does well with being "out and about" all the time, so then there is the personal struggle that such busy-ness creates as well. But then deep down, I wonder if I am just making excuses....And round and round on the hamster wheel my mind can go if I let it.

        The key for me about calming this anxiety over "are we doing enough to share our faith/lifestyle/light of Christ" with others is that I realize all the things about me that I listed above, and I accept that they are part of how God made me, and the life that I have been given. Therefore, the best thing for me is to hang back and let God reveal to me what He wants me to do. If it is truly from Him, it is usually a single thing, and it usually nags at me until I get it done. But I have also noticed that they are things that fit within the wheelhouse of who I am and the gifts and talents He has given me; NOT something completely foreign to me that causes undo stress or anxiety. When I follow, rather than lead, it is usually the right thing to do.

        I think it's great that you are feeling pulled to "do more," and would encourage you to continue discerning what that is, and how it will fit into your homeschool life. Sometimes this takes great patience, but it can be amazing when you figure it out! I have a dear acquaintance back in VA who was homeschooling her own children, then adopted two more, which led her into contact with many people who needed help....to which she responded by starting a crisis pregnancy home which is just going gangbusters now! She is an amazing, amazing person - but also, completely ordinary. She simply responded to all the steps God put in her path.

        I think this is possible for everyone to do - and it will end up being different for each person, based on their own personalities, talents, and gifts. We each can fill roles that need to be filled. And those roles will change as your life moves along. The seasons of our lives will allow for us to take on more, or take on less, given our personal circumstances.

        The reason I got going on this was because a friend sent me the following quote today, and I just absolutely love it. I think it speaks a bit to what you are thinking and asking about - how to be the witness God wants each of us to be. It is by Pope Saint John XXIII (who is hilariously humble, by the way):

        From the saints I must take the substance, not the accidents of their virtues. I am not St. Aloysius, nor must I seek holiness in his particular way, but according to the requirements of my own nature, my own character and the different conditions of my life...God desires us to follow the examples of the saints by absorbing the vital sap of their virtues and turning it into our own life-blood, adapting it to our own individual capacities and particular circumstances. If St. Aloysius had been as I am, he would have become holy in a different way.

        Does that speak a bit to the concern you have? Other thoughts folks have on this?
        AMDG,
        Sarah
        2019-2020 - 9th Year with MP
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          #49
          Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

          Originally posted by KF2000 View Post

          From the saints I must take the substance, not the accidents of their virtues. I am not St. Aloysius, nor must I seek holiness in his particular way, but according to the requirements of my own nature, my own character and the different conditions of my life...God desires us to follow the examples of the saints by absorbing the vital sap of their virtues and turning it into our own life-blood, adapting it to our own individual capacities and particular circumstances. If St. Aloysius had been as I am, he would have become holy in a different way.
          This is really beautiful and I think is a great description of how we are the body of Christ and are members of it, individually. I always love the idea of each person owning their part and letting it blossom to its fullness. For every family (and every mama and every child) this is going to look different. Each family can develop their own ethos, their own "mission" or direction. Some of us will live in foreign lands, some will adopt, some will foster, some will start businesses or schools, some will raise 9 children, some will raise 1, some will tend their ailing grandparents or parents, some will raise children with special needs, some will write books, some will farm, some will live quiet lives and work with their hands. There is a quote from Perelandra which I adore. Ransom, mystified by the food of the planet, remarks, "The fruit we are eating is always the best fruit of all." There's something to the wonder of the present moment. I'm pretty far from your original post, but it's all related, right? Thinking of you and cheering you on today as you sort things out. Identity and family culture questions are some of the hardest. Praying you have ears to hear and eyes to see.

          On a purely practical level, I suggest getting your children Memoria Press kids as pen pals. That helps tremendously!
          Festina lentē,
          Jessica P

          SY2019-2020 · 8th MP Year
          @ Home, HLN, & MPOA
          S · 10th, MPOA Henle 3
          D · 8th
          D · 5th
          S · 2nd

          Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School

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            #50
            Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

            I like what you said about how, if G-d wants you to do something it will be one thing, and it will keep coming back. I've experienced that, and It is good to think that His expectation will not be overwhelmingly difficult, but one manageable thing at a time. How comforting. And I love that quote.
            Oh Jessica- MP pals sounds fun! I have to look into that. Thanks ladies. Gotta run and make dinner- will try to come back later on-
            DD 12, using 6M core with 7th Grade COTR
            DS 10, using 5M core

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              #51
              Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

              Originally posted by momgineer View Post
              Because what good is having power if you don't use it to change the word.
              pffffft! I just noticed this. I need a coffee-spitting, laughing hysterically emoji.
              DD 12, using 6M core with 7th Grade COTR
              DS 10, using 5M core

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                #52
                Re: Are Math and Science all that Matter?

                word
                GROANNNNNN! I just got that one too. Beautiful pun.
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                “Have no fear of moving into the unknown. Simply step out fearlessly knowing that I am with you, therefore no harm can befall you; all is very, very well. Do this in complete faith and confidence.”
                ~Pope St John Paul II

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