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    Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

    Just wondering if anyone else here is dealing with any of these illnesses? I'm coming out of a relapse of AF right now; it's been building for awhile and I finally crashed and had to be in bed for two afternoons this week. The fight/flight spikes are making it really hard to deal with frustrations when working on school with the kids. If anyone is in the same boat and willing to share, could you PM me? I'm open to talking on-list as well.
    Jennifer
    Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

    DS16
    MP: Lit 10, VideoText Algebra
    MPOA: High School Comp. II
    HSC: Spanish I, Conceptual Physics, Modern European History, and electives

    DS15
    MP: Biology, Lit 10, VideoText Algebra, Greek Tragedies
    MPOA: High School Comp. II, Fourth Form Latin
    HSC: Modern European History

    DS12
    7M with:
    Second Form Latin, EGR III, and HSC for US History

    DS11
    SC Level 4

    DD9
    3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

    DD7/8
    Still in SC Level 2

    DD 4/5
    SC Level C

    #2
    Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

    I don't have those, but I have Psoriatic Disease (rheumatoid's twin). I'm in the middle of a horrible flare and the fatigue that comes from this disease and it's medicines is awful. I can commiserate with you. It makes homeschooling very hard but we are still sticking to it. Please let me know if you ever want to talk either by PM or here. I'm sure there are others in the same boat.

    Gentle hugs,
    Cynthia
    Cynthia

    DS19 - Eeyore - LDs/Aspergers
    DD16 - Kanga
    DS6 - Tigger/Roo/F5 Tornado

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      #3
      Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

      I thought I had one or all of those for about 12 years until I was finally correctly dx'd with Celiac. I also discovered I had severe reactions to a few foods (Eggs flare up my asthma and Splenda makes me feel like my joints are on fire. Weird).

      Let me at least send you online hugs. It's just a one day at a time kind of thing. Hang in there.
      Bean. Long time MP user.

      DD- 9th grade aerospace enthusiast. Using a mix of dual credit, online and classical materials for 2019-2020.

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        #4
        Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

        Thank you both for sharing! I know a lot of moms struggle with chronic illness -- many MUCH worse than mine -- but it's nice to be able to "talk" to some of them too! My mom homeschooled through severe CFS/Fibromyalgia and permanent nerve damage in her back. Having a similar, though far less severe, illness adds worry about "what if this is it" to the mix KWIM?

        We've been able to keep school and work going (I run a small brand agency with my husband) but it's been really hard to keep my cool the past few days when my kids start acting like they've never seen a particular word or math problem before I had the older set postpone Writing until next week and do their Latin and Grammar lessons independently. They're only in Prima despite being in middle school, so this was an option, and we're just focusing on reading with the first graders.

        My biggest problem is that I overwork out of necessity and set myself up for a relapse. I'm a perfectionist so hobbies stress me out because I can't do them the way I see them in my head. Planning and strategizing and work-in-general is the one thing I'm consistently good at, so I do that "for fun" too!
        Jennifer
        Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

        DS16
        MP: Lit 10, VideoText Algebra
        MPOA: High School Comp. II
        HSC: Spanish I, Conceptual Physics, Modern European History, and electives

        DS15
        MP: Biology, Lit 10, VideoText Algebra, Greek Tragedies
        MPOA: High School Comp. II, Fourth Form Latin
        HSC: Modern European History

        DS12
        7M with:
        Second Form Latin, EGR III, and HSC for US History

        DS11
        SC Level 4

        DD9
        3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

        DD7/8
        Still in SC Level 2

        DD 4/5
        SC Level C

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          #5
          Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

          Until just last month, I also ran my own business. I just couldn't keep up anymore though. I feel a huge weight lifted which is great. I also tend to overdue myself and pay for it later. I don't mind having my kids help me but sometimes it just seems a lot. My oldest is also special needs and needs a lot of my assistance still with school. Then there's my up and coming K'er. I am a great planner; implementation sometimes gets lost though. I can't do any hobbies I used to either since my hands don't work like they used to - it's very frustrating. I used to be a 120+ wpm typer and I'm probably down to 25 wpm now. I also try to remember that others have it a lot worse than I do - it does help. In general, I'm happy though frustrated at times.

          I've been looking into food also. Unfortunately (since it would be a fix), I'm not celiac, nor did going gluten-free help when I tested. I can't seem to find any foods that cause me to flare. My body just seems to go all spazzy at times. For example, this flare, my left foot is swollen and I can't walk on it, my right hip is irritated, my right wrist/hand is swollen and not working, my neck and my left side of my jaw so I can't open my mouth more than an inch or so. Last time, it was my shoulders and elbows. There's no rhyme no reason to it. Just endless medicine which doesn't even seem to take care of it all. Sorry, I sound whiny and I don't mean to be. I really try very hard not to complain too much. I want to be an example to my children and show that they can't let things like this get to them.
          Cynthia

          DS19 - Eeyore - LDs/Aspergers
          DD16 - Kanga
          DS6 - Tigger/Roo/F5 Tornado

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            #6
            Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

            Yeah Fibromyalgia and a Celiac here...so I hear you.
            Using MP for the first time this year was a huge boon to our lives to take so much of the stress off my shoulders but I understand so well that fight/flight panic of dealing with pain and sickness.
            Like bean said virtual hugs for you!

            You hit the key there with the overworking to "catch up" then relapsing then starting all over in the same cycle. I had to really decide what was the highest priority for my energy and reserve my self for that. But it took a lot of years to figure that out!
            Winter 2019 :
            DD - Graduated!
            DS - core 9 with remediation/support
            DD - core 6 with remediation/support
            DS - moving from SC to grade 4

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              #7
              Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

              Originally posted by Lucidity View Post
              I've been looking into food also. Unfortunately (since it would be a fix), I'm not celiac, nor did going gluten-free help when I tested. I can't seem to find any foods that cause me to flare. My body just seems to go all spazzy at times. For example, this flare, my left foot is swollen and I can't walk on it, my right hip is irritated, my right wrist/hand is swollen and not working, my neck and my left side of my jaw so I can't open my mouth more than an inch or so. Last time, it was my shoulders and elbows. There's no rhyme no reason to it. Just endless medicine which doesn't even seem to take care of it all. Sorry, I sound whiny and I don't mean to be. I really try very hard not to complain too much. I want to be an example to my children and show that they can't let things like this get to them.
              Just wanted to share to you or others who have or are considering removing gluten to see if it helps--for some people with gluten sensitivity, simply not eating it will help. However, to truly test gluten sensitivity, gluten should be removed from all contact--as in, no one in the home eats it or wears it or plays with it (shampoo, lotion, makeup, playdough). For people who are ultra-sensitive, minor expose will keep them flaring. I have a friend who cannot touch playdough. Another friend will be "off" and will flare for 30-60 days if she accidently eats one of the many foods she is sensitive to (including gluten). Depending on the health condition and the level of sensitivity, it can take several months for the inflammation caused by gluten to go away.

              I removed all gluten from the house, but then determined my sensitivity is not contact, so my family is very happy about that. I have a combination of conditions right now, including a node on my thyroid caused by low iodine and iron (even though my diet should have been sufficient to keep this from happening) and insulin resistance. I have removed gluten, cow dairy, and soy from my diet--gluten and soy for good, but I am hoping I will be able to reintroduce dairy within a couple of years--I was sure dairy wasn't a problem for me, but after removing it from my diet for a couple of months, it became very apparent that I was having a reaction to it almost every time I ate it. I also eat a very specific diet (well, when I stay on top of the shopping and planning, that is) that is high in veggies, protein, and good fats with a little fruit and almost no processed foods and limited carbs. Basically, I eat carbs before a hard workout--otherwise, I eat two servings of fruit and (no more than) 15 grams of starchy carbs per day--if I stray from this, I pay. When I started eating dairy again, I ignored the minor symptoms, and then started losing weight too quickly, lost my appetite, my stomach was upset and hurt every time I ate--even after I cut dairy back out. It caused a weird combination of no energy/fatigue along with high adrenaline that made me feel simultaneously on edge and exhausted at the same time. I drank homemade bone broth for several days, and once my stomach healed, my appetite returned and I was back to "healthy".

              I am planning to find a pace that works and stick with it--for homeschooling, housework, business responsibilities, church, and everything else. I have the tendency to wait for bursts of energy and then try to get it all done at once...and start a cycle of fatiguing myself and not being able to get anything done. My personality wants to be the hare, but I have to accept that I am a turtle right now--slow and steady and just keep moving forward (unless I truly need to rest). And, speaking of rest, it is that time...
              Michaela
              Daughter: Age 11 MP 6A (MPOA for TFL, 6th grade math, and composition)
              Son: Age 6 1st Grade MP Traditional Spelling, Literature, Math, and Handwriting
              for 2019/2020 school year

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                #8
                Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                Originally posted by bean View Post
                ?..and Splenda makes me feel like my joints are on fire. Weird.
                Splenda and Aspartame = panic attacks here. Truly: WEIRD. We have since rid ourselves of "fake food". The difference is enormous. That's really the only issue we have with food. Gluten, dairy, soy, etc., etc., has never bothered anyone here. But the artificial sweeteners are *killah*.

                I noticed I was extremely anxious on a regular basis about the time I joined a gym last year. One of the trainers suggested protein bars and shakes to up my intake -- I ate and drank that stuff like a zealot. Then the anxiety began. I mentioned it to my husband and he asked if the products contained artificial sweeteners -- YEP! He noticed his anxiety would peak with any diet soda he drank. I cut out the fake protein supplements (and he cut out the soda) and about two weeks later -- calm.

                Splenda (sucralose) and Nutrisweet (aspartame) are in WAAAAAAY more products than you'd think (yogurt, bread, cereal, salad dressing, snack bars, oatmeal, fruit juice, lots of products that are NOT labeled "light" or reduced-calorie). So reading labels is key.

                HTH anyone reading along
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                  #9
                  Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                  Yep, we cut processed food here too. We follow the 80/20 rule though so we don't add to the stress by stressing about our food -- made that mistake a few years ago and it didn't help anyone! Thankfully, we don't have any food issues that we know of (except I have to be careful of too many carbs; but low carb is even worse for me, so I have to keep it generally balanced). My health, and the things my husband and kids struggle with, seem to be primarily related to an inherited low ability to tolerate stress. Skin conditions, auto-immune conditions, mood disorders, anxiety/depression...they all run in both of our families and from what we can tell the majority of cases in our immediate and extended family were triggered by severe and/or chronic stress.

                  It's super simple, but extra Magnesium has been a HUGE help for us!
                  Last edited by jen1134; 06-02-2016, 09:06 AM.
                  Jennifer
                  Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                  DS16
                  MP: Lit 10, VideoText Algebra
                  MPOA: High School Comp. II
                  HSC: Spanish I, Conceptual Physics, Modern European History, and electives

                  DS15
                  MP: Biology, Lit 10, VideoText Algebra, Greek Tragedies
                  MPOA: High School Comp. II, Fourth Form Latin
                  HSC: Modern European History

                  DS12
                  7M with:
                  Second Form Latin, EGR III, and HSC for US History

                  DS11
                  SC Level 4

                  DD9
                  3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

                  DD7/8
                  Still in SC Level 2

                  DD 4/5
                  SC Level C

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                    #10
                    Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                    I don't have those issues specifically, but I struggle with periodic bouts of serious depression. I spent several years on medication, dealing with awful side effects, but have found over the past few years that watching my diet (cutting out soft drinks and cutting way back on sugar and processed foods) and exercising (walking and yoga are my favorites) help more than the medication ever did. That said, I am struggling through another bout right now. It's less intense than it used to be, and I need to get back on track with my exercise, but it still makes homeschooling a struggle some days.
                    Amanda

                    2016-2017: 4A | 8M :: 3rd year homeschooling | 2nd year MP :: www.quillandglass.com

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                      #11
                      Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                      Originally posted by Mandaleeni View Post
                      I don't have those issues specifically, but I struggle with periodic bouts of serious depression. I spent several years on medication, dealing with awful side effects, but have found over the past few years that watching my diet (cutting out soft drinks and cutting way back on sugar and processed foods) and exercising (walking and yoga are my favorites) help more than the medication ever did. That said, I am struggling through another bout right now. It's less intense than it used to be, and I need to get back on track with my exercise, but it still makes homeschooling a struggle some days.
                      I have OCD and depression as well (the stress from the OCD is part of the reason I ended up with AF), so I TOTALLY understand serious depression! PLEASE feel free to PM anytime you need/want to talk it out!!
                      Jennifer
                      Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

                      DS16
                      MP: Lit 10, VideoText Algebra
                      MPOA: High School Comp. II
                      HSC: Spanish I, Conceptual Physics, Modern European History, and electives

                      DS15
                      MP: Biology, Lit 10, VideoText Algebra, Greek Tragedies
                      MPOA: High School Comp. II, Fourth Form Latin
                      HSC: Modern European History

                      DS12
                      7M with:
                      Second Form Latin, EGR III, and HSC for US History

                      DS11
                      SC Level 4

                      DD9
                      3A, with First Form Latin (long story!)

                      DD7/8
                      Still in SC Level 2

                      DD 4/5
                      SC Level C

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                        #12
                        Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                        Right there with all of you ladies! I took a turn the moment I turned 40. :-( Early menopause runs in the family and I am fighting lots of changes in my body. We were pregnant at the beginning of the year and lost the baby at 10 weeks. The miscarriage did a number on my body and it took about 6 weeks to "get back" but I'm still not quite the same! The exhaustion is almost unbearable somedays! Honestly, though, sticking with a routine and following the MP plans makes for better days! (I'm also on progesterone which makes me sleepy and grumpy too) - basically the first 1o days I'm "great" - feel lots of energy, day 14 hits and I'm a wreck.....I have spent about 4 hours in bed, about every 4- 6 weeks, on a Sunday...
                        Christine

                        (2019/2020)
                        DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                        DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                        DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                        Previous Years
                        DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                        DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                        DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                          #13
                          Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                          Originally posted by jen1134 View Post
                          I have OCD and depression as well (the stress from the OCD is part of the reason I ended up with AF), so I TOTALLY understand serious depression! PLEASE feel free to PM anytime you need/want to talk it out!!
                          Thank you so much! It's such a frustrating thing to deal with - I appreciate the offer more than you know & may take you up on it sometime!

                          Originally posted by howiecram View Post
                          Right there with all of you ladies! I took a turn the moment I turned 40. :-( Early menopause runs in the family and I am fighting lots of changes in my body. We were pregnant at the beginning of the year and lost the baby at 10 weeks. The miscarriage did a number on my body and it took about 6 weeks to "get back" but I'm still not quite the same! The exhaustion is almost unbearable somedays! Honestly, though, sticking with a routine and following the MP plans makes for better days! (I'm also on progesterone which makes me sleepy and grumpy too) - basically the first 1o days I'm "great" - feel lots of energy, day 14 hits and I'm a wreck.....I have spent about 4 hours in bed, about every 4- 6 weeks, on a Sunday...
                          I'm so sorry for your loss. I totally agree with you that following a routine is a BIG help. My SIL was on progesterone for a while & was rough for her, too. Take care of yourself!
                          Amanda

                          2016-2017: 4A | 8M :: 3rd year homeschooling | 2nd year MP :: www.quillandglass.com

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                            #14
                            Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                            Hello Jenn and other Mommas. I have fibro/Sjögren's/depression/insomnia/chronic fatigue and we are finishing our first year with MP, 3rd and 1st and prek5... We have homeschooled since birth. 😉 We are not quite done with lessons yet for the year but we are getting there. Some of the best encouragement I have ever received is from my sister and believe me gals, it's golden. All homeschooling/mothering is difficult at times but my sister reminded me that for those of us with chronic pain illness... "just getting out of bed everyday can be more of a physical and mental challenge for you than most mommas face in an entire day." that is a victory to be celebrated and recognized. We all have different difficulties and some days I can leap out of bed and conquer the world but most days my feet ache when they hit the floor and I hobble for an hour or so before I find my footing. But our goal is to finish well. So we go light on Momma's bad days and we try to be consistent on the bad days, as best we can. But my kiddos are not at an age where they can do their work alone, so it will take us longer to get through each school year and that has to be ok because, truly, it is. You can message me anytime if want to chat... I will be at Sodalitas too, if you will be there.
                            Blessings,
                            Rachel

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                              #15
                              Re: Moms Homeschooling with Adrenal Fatigue/CFS/Fibro, etc?

                              Rachel, your post reminded me of a conversation I had recently with a homeschooling mom who I have known a couple of years now but only see once each year! She has a connective tissue condition, and at times even resorts to using a wheelchair. She said that the way she thinks of it is like everyone is given ten spoons when they start out life. And most people start out their day with all ten spoons. During the course of the day they may get tired, or feel sick for some reason, and end the day with few less spoons. But they wake up the next day ready to start with all ten spoons again.

                              For people with a chronic illness, we are starting out with only seven spoons. And through the course of the day, we continue losing spoons as well. So by the end of our days we may be very low on spoons. And even when we start out the next day, we are at a disadvantage. But it is what it is. I thought that imagery was so helpful.

                              The way I look at it is that we all know that we have to pick up our cross and carry it each day. Everyone's cross is different, and can change as you go through life. But for some of us, it is a very, very physical cross, that we sense and feel every single day from beginning to end. And the picking it up is simply getting out bed in the morning. But I remember that Jesus hugged his cross. I try to do that too. Because of it, I feel closer to Him, and for that I am grateful. I also found it really interesting that the word for cross in Latin is feminine. I think about that a lot...in a couple different ways.

                              AMDG,
                              Sarah
                              2019-2020 - 9th Year with MP
                              DD, 18, Homeschool grad; Art major/philosophy minor
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