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    OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

    Hi Ladies

    Just went to the midwife today and found that Le Bebe #4 is still head-up (never happened before). The doc is scheduling me for an ECV (or "version") next week to see if we can turn her head-down. I've also been given information on chiropractic care (...meh...), acupuncture (uhm...) and exercises to do to turn her naturally (hot and cold packs, music or light, inverted lying, etc.). There are two docs in town who will deliver breech, if it comes to that, but they are not at our hospital. C-Section is a last -- LAST! -- resort.

    The success rate of an ECV at (what will be) 37 weeks is about 65% with a 6% risk of reversion. The odds of serious complications are very low. So we're optimistic. Wanted to ask for prayers and get any good thoughts on this from any mamas who've been through this. I went with a midwife this time and was feeling good about natural birth (after 3 inductions in another state that doesn't recognize midwifery or allow much natural birthing -- home births in my home state are illegal, for example). But we are planning on a midwife-assisted hospital delivery -- so it feels like the best of both worlds for natural outcome and safety. Now.... That's a little up in the air.

    Thoughts and hugs?
    “If I should fall even a thousand times a day, a thousand times, with peaceful repentance, I will say immediately, Nunc Coepi, ‘Now, I begin.’.”

    ~Venerable Bruno Lanteri
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    #2
    Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

    Yes, praying for little baby to just flip around in the night!

    My last two babies were home-born and both treated me to several weeks of lying in odd poses each night before bed to get them to flip, though nothing as weird as what you'll find on the internet! They both flipped! I'm about 99% sure my little sis also had an ECV. Are you planning to have medication or no?

    Hugs, yes, loads of hugs to you.
    Festina lentē,
    Jessica P

    '22-'23 • 13th year HSing • 11th year MP
    DS Hillsdale College freshman
    DD 11th • HLN & Latin online
    DD 8th • HLN & Home
    DS 5th • HLN & Home
    Me • Latin online

    Teaching Third Form Latin and co-directing @
    Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School, est. 2016
    "Most people overestimate what they can accomplish in one year and underestimate what they can accomplish in five." -Mrs. Cheryl Lowe

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      #3
      Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

      Originally posted by Anita View Post
      Hi Ladies

      Just went to the midwife today and found that Le Bebe #4 is still head-up (never happened before). The doc is scheduling me for an ECV (or "version") next week to see if we can turn her head-down. I've also been given information on chiropractic care (...meh...), acupuncture (uhm...) and exercises to do to turn her naturally (hot and cold packs, music or light, inverted lying, etc.). There are two docs in town who will deliver breech, if it comes to that, but they are not at our hospital. C-Section is a last -- LAST! -- resort.

      The success rate of an ECV at (what will be) 37 weeks is about 65% with a 6% risk of reversion. The odds of serious complications are very low. So we're optimistic. Wanted to ask for prayers and get any good thoughts on this from any mamas who've been through this. I went with a midwife this time and was feeling good about natural birth (after 3 inductions in another state that doesn't recognize midwifery or allow much natural birthing -- home births in my home state are illegal, for example). But we are planning on a midwife-assisted hospital delivery -- so it feels like the best of both worlds for natural outcome and safety. Now.... That's a little up in the air.

      Thoughts and hugs?
      Anita,

      Big hugs and prayers for sure! I have never been through a having a baby head up before, but I did switch to a midwife for baby 4. I switched a couple months before my due date (I really do believe it was the Holy Spirit telling me it was the right move even though I hate change) to a midwife practice that delivered at an alternative birth center at a local hospital. My guy was "sunny side up" so it took longer than I expected, but she got all 10lbs 7oz of my chunky guy out without so much as a tear or any pain medication. I would certainly have had a c-section if I had stayed with my original doctor. As great as it was to finally get to deliver naturally, it is still just one day out of a lifetime with your child. stay positive and as rested as possible and we will keep storming heaven with lots of prayer.

      Dorinda
      Dorinda

      Plans for 2022-2023
      16th year homeschooling, 13th year with Memoria Press
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        #4
        Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

        Originally posted by pickandgrin View Post
        Yes, praying for little baby to just flip around in the night!

        My last two babies were home-born and both treated me to several weeks of lying in odd poses each night before bed to get them to flip, though nothing as weird as what you'll find on the internet! They both flipped! I'm about 99% sure my little sis also had an ECV. Are you planning to have medication or no?

        Hugs, yes, loads of hugs to you.
        Just meds to keep me from contracting. No pain meds are planned. We're going to try the hot/cold packs tonight as well as a go at the (least weird) exercises. (HOWWWWW does a 37-week-pregnant woman actually get on and off an ironing board balanced between a couch and the floor? And who thought of that?!)

        Thanks for the hugs
        “If I should fall even a thousand times a day, a thousand times, with peaceful repentance, I will say immediately, Nunc Coepi, ‘Now, I begin.’.”

        ~Venerable Bruno Lanteri
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Wonder Boy 14 ... MP5 + R&S Math 6
        Joy Bubble 12 ... MP5 full core
        Cowboy 10 ... MP5 + R&S Math 4
        Sassafras 6 ... MP1
        All … SSPX Catechesis

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          #5
          Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

          Originally posted by Mom2mthj View Post
          Anita,

          Big hugs and prayers for sure! I have never been through a having a baby head up before, but I did switch to a midwife for baby 4. I switched a couple months before my due date (I really do believe it was the Holy Spirit telling me it was the right move even though I hate change) to a midwife practice that delivered at an alternative birth center at a local hospital. My guy was "sunny side up" so it took longer than I expected, but she got all 10lbs 7oz of my chunky guy out without so much as a tear or any pain medication. I would certainly have had a c-section if I had stayed with my original doctor. As great as it was to finally get to deliver naturally, it is still just one day out of a lifetime with your child. stay positive and as rested as possible and we will keep storming heaven with lots of prayer.

          Dorinda
          Thank you, love.

          I know if "the worst" happens, we are looking at a c-section. But lots of babies are born that way all the time. I'm honestly a bit terrified of a c-section... But we'll get through it if that's our best option.

          This just feels like "my luck" -- finally, a shot at natural birth! ... And now... Maybe not a natural birth at all. So yes, heaven needs to hear! LOLOLOL!

          Seriously, however she gets here safely is fine. I know what *I* would prefer, but God has His reasons.

          We wait in faith!
          “If I should fall even a thousand times a day, a thousand times, with peaceful repentance, I will say immediately, Nunc Coepi, ‘Now, I begin.’.”

          ~Venerable Bruno Lanteri
          ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          Wonder Boy 14 ... MP5 + R&S Math 6
          Joy Bubble 12 ... MP5 full core
          Cowboy 10 ... MP5 + R&S Math 4
          Sassafras 6 ... MP1
          All … SSPX Catechesis

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            #6
            Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

            Originally posted by Anita View Post
            Just meds to keep me from contracting. No pain meds are planned. We're going to try the hot/cold packs tonight as well as a go at the (least weird) exercises. (HOWWWWW does a 37-week-pregnant woman actually get on and off an ironing board balanced between a couch and the floor? And who thought of that?!)

            Thanks for the hugs
            Please don't hurt yourself on that ironing board! Haha! So, checked with my sis and she did have a successful ECV with the same you are planning--only meds to stave off contractions. I much regret to report to you that she said it was more painful than childbirth (oh, only because I love you enough do have the courage to give that warning!), but thankfully she says she would definitely do it again, if necessary. So there's that.

            And I'm just re-noticing your quote in your signature! How timely.
            Festina lentē,
            Jessica P

            '22-'23 • 13th year HSing • 11th year MP
            DS Hillsdale College freshman
            DD 11th • HLN & Latin online
            DD 8th • HLN & Home
            DS 5th • HLN & Home
            Me • Latin online

            Teaching Third Form Latin and co-directing @
            Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School, est. 2016
            "Most people overestimate what they can accomplish in one year and underestimate what they can accomplish in five." -Mrs. Cheryl Lowe

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              #7
              Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

              Originally posted by pickandgrin View Post
              Please don't hurt yourself on that ironing board! Haha! So, checked with my sis and she did have a successful ECV with the same you are planning--only meds to stave off contractions. I much regret to report to you that she said it was more painful than childbirth (oh, only because I love you enough do have the courage to give that warning!), but thankfully she says she would definitely do it again, if necessary. So there's that.

              And I'm just re-noticing your quote in your signature! How timely.
              Gee, thanks.... 😏
              (Kidding)

              Nope, not "worried"... Resigned to the Supreme Will. (Can I wish the Will were easier to adjust to sometimes, though?)
              Last edited by Anita; 04-25-2016, 06:27 PM.
              “If I should fall even a thousand times a day, a thousand times, with peaceful repentance, I will say immediately, Nunc Coepi, ‘Now, I begin.’.”

              ~Venerable Bruno Lanteri
              ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
              Wonder Boy 14 ... MP5 + R&S Math 6
              Joy Bubble 12 ... MP5 full core
              Cowboy 10 ... MP5 + R&S Math 4
              Sassafras 6 ... MP1
              All … SSPX Catechesis

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                #8
                Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                Hey Anita! I will be praying for you! My sister had a successful "turning" also - so I will be hopeful for you!

                But also - keep trusting. Sometimes they don't turn because they can't turn. Our first Godson would not turn for anything. He ended up being born c-section. But when he was born, the chord was so wrapped around his neck, he could not go anywhere. We are so grateful he was born safely - however he got here! So do your best, and keep trusting that it will go the way God has planned. You are in my prayers!

                AMDG,
                Sarah
                2020-2021
                16th Year HSing; 10th Year with MP
                DD, 19, Homeschool grad; college sophomore
                DS, 17
                DD, 15
                DD, 13
                DD, 11
                DD, 9
                DD, 7
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                  #9
                  Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                  Anita,

                  You and the baby are in my prayers.

                  Blessings,
                  Michelle T

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                    #10
                    Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                    Prayers for you sweet forum sister and your wee little one . And all the other wee ones at home not to catch you on the ironing board tonight and announce it at church, cause that would be my luck. Lol
                    DS14- Simply Classical mash-up of Traditional Spelling 2 and SC 7/8
                    DD12- Classic Core 6th Grade w/ First Form
                    DD10- Classic Core 4th Grade w/ Greek Myths and American History

                    We've completed:
                    Classic Core Jr. kindergarten thru grade 5
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                      #11
                      Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                      I had a successful ECV with my first. I don't remember it being painful during, and after I just felt kind of bruised. Nothing too scary. I've also had 3 c-sections; it's not my preferred method of giving birth, but sometimes you've gotta do what you've gotta do. I'll keep you and No. 4 in my prayers.
                      Wendy in VA
                      wife of 28 years to Chris
                      dd 24 (married to to sil 25)
                      ds 20
                      ds 18 - MP Latin, Logic, Literature, and Classsical Studies
                      dd 12 - modified MP 7
                      dd 8 - modified MP 2
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                        #12
                        Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                        My oldest was transverse breech and born via c-section. My next two were breach but I did the exercises and they both turned the last week of my pregnancy for two vbac births, one midwife birth at the hospital and the other unassisted at home because the midwife was out getting her bag! Anyway, the exercises can work, and I just say a right now prayer!

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                          #13
                          Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                          Thinking about you today!
                          Christine

                          (2022/2023)
                          DD1 8/23/09 -Mix of MP 6/7
                          DS2 9/1/11 - Mix of SC 7/8 and SC 9/10 (R&S 5, FFL)
                          DD3 2/9/13 -SC 5/6

                          Previous Years
                          DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4, Mix of MP3/4, Mix MP5/6
                          DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, AAR/Storytime Treasures), CLE Math, Mix of MP3/4, MP5 (literature mix of SC 7/8/MP5)
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                            #14
                            Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                            Originally posted by Anita View Post
                            Hi Ladies

                            Just went to the midwife today and found that Le Bebe #4 is still head-up (never happened before). The doc is scheduling me for an ECV (or "version") next week to see if we can turn her head-down. I've also been given information on chiropractic care (...meh...), acupuncture (uhm...) and exercises to do to turn her naturally (hot and cold packs, music or light, inverted lying, etc.). There are two docs in town who will deliver breech, if it comes to that, but they are not at our hospital. C-Section is a last -- LAST! -- resort.

                            The success rate of an ECV at (what will be) 37 weeks is about 65% with a 6% risk of reversion. The odds of serious complications are very low. So we're optimistic. Wanted to ask for prayers and get any good thoughts on this from any mamas who've been through this. I went with a midwife this time and was feeling good about natural birth (after 3 inductions in another state that doesn't recognize midwifery or allow much natural birthing -- home births in my home state are illegal, for example). But we are planning on a midwife-assisted hospital delivery -- so it feels like the best of both worlds for natural outcome and safety. Now.... That's a little up in the air.

                            Thoughts and hugs?
                            well ........ this crunchy granola girl did chiro care RELIGIOUSLY with Baby #6 and he was the smoothest labor I've had. Maeve was posterior (that girl has moved to the beat of her own drummer since Day 1), and I was determined not to repeat that performance. Hence, the chiro care with Daniel.

                            I had a breech extraction with Thomas (Twin #2) ..... and whoa. Painful, but that was my "I don't wan't a C section" alternative.

                            There used to be information about exercises on the Spinning Babies website. http://spinningbabies.com/

                            Honestly, I'd try it all .... chiro, acupuncture and the whole she-bang.

                            Does Wee Peanut have a name? We will storm St Gerard and encourage this little one to straighten up and fly head down.
                            2023-24 Year 13 of homeschooling with MP

                            DD1 - 28 - college grad, bakery owner
                            DD2 - 17 - SENIOR - HLCS Louisville, dual credit classes, theater, equestrian
                            DS3 - 15 FRESHMAN - HLCS Louisville, soccer/tennis/aviation -dyslexia &dysgraphia
                            DS4 - 15 - FRESHMAN -HLCS Louisville, soccer/tennis/aviation -auditory processing disorder
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                              #15
                              Re: OT: Head-up Baby and ECV

                              Originally posted by DiannaKennedy View Post
                              well ........ this crunchy granola girl did chiro care RELIGIOUSLY with Baby #6 and he was the smoothest labor I've had. Maeve was posterior (that girl has moved to the beat of her own drummer since Day 1), and I was determined not to repeat that performance. Hence, the chiro care with Daniel.

                              I had a breech extraction with Thomas (Twin #2) ..... and whoa. Painful, but that was my "I don't wan't a C section" alternative.

                              There used to be information about exercises on the Spinning Babies website. http://spinningbabies.com/

                              Honestly, I'd try it all .... chiro, acupuncture and the whole she-bang.

                              Does Wee Peanut have a name? We will storm St Gerard and encourage this little one to straighten up and fly head down.
                              I have an appt for a "Webster" tomorrow at a local chiro... I'm honestly not a believer in chiro care, but whatever. If it works, it works. My hips and pelvis have been wacky with this baby since the first trimester. If I get relief -- hey! -- beats the immobility of not being able to walk some nights.

                              The acupuncture option, honestly, is laughable. (Sorry to offend anyone who is a devotee of acupuncture.) It's some herb (that smells like something illegal, according to my midwife) that is burned and then rubbed onto a needle, which is then cooled and placed on the outside of my fifth toe. :ridiculously amused face: And it's $100, off insurance. (Are you kidding?) No.

                              ....

                              "Clementine", after St Clement. It means "merciful". Her first and middle names combined mean, "merciful gift of God."

                              (Imagining the sweet, collective, "Awwwwwww!" going up from the room. )
                              “If I should fall even a thousand times a day, a thousand times, with peaceful repentance, I will say immediately, Nunc Coepi, ‘Now, I begin.’.”

                              ~Venerable Bruno Lanteri
                              ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                              Wonder Boy 14 ... MP5 + R&S Math 6
                              Joy Bubble 12 ... MP5 full core
                              Cowboy 10 ... MP5 + R&S Math 4
                              Sassafras 6 ... MP1
                              All … SSPX Catechesis

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