Classical Comp 1 in 4A vs in 4M (4th for NU)

[howiecram]

I was just wondering, I noticed that in 4A, Classical Comp 1 begins on week 1. However, in 4M (I'm guessing 4th for NU as well?) 9 weeks of "supplemental" writing is scheduled. Are more lessons covered in 4A? Are these supplemental lessons also in 4A, just scheduled at a different time?

[jen1134]

I don't have an answer on this (we used 4NU a few years ago and won't get to 4A until next year). But I would say that it doesn't matter which plans you use. You never complete a composition book with MP because the extra lessons are used for review every year before starting a new level. When my boys started High School Comp II with MPOA, the class did one lesson each from Fable, Narrative, Chreia, and Ref/Con before ever touching Common Topic. The homeschool plans work the same way.

[howiecram]

I am going to buy either 5M or 4A (I have 4M) so i was just curious the difference so I could decide which core to buy!

[jen1134]

I am going to buy either 5M or 4A (I have 4M) so i was just curious the difference so I could decide which core to buy!

5M uses Narrative.

[howiecram]

5M uses Narrative.

Yes, I know that. I just mean I was curious the difference in the between the 4A and 4th M. I have 4M, but will likely do more of the 5th core. However, if the plans for 4A are different (and considering some of the supplemental lessons actually correspond to the lit selections in 4A/5) I was just curious in the difference. If it lines up differently, I might consider the 4A manual.

[jen1134]

Got it!

[enbateau]

If you can wait a few weeks, I'm ordering 4A in a few days... hahaha, but I think you need some expert advice from someone who has seen both! 🐱

[Mom2mthj]

My copy of 4A from a couple years ago covered 17 lessons of fable over the school year with no supplemental writing lessons.

[howiecram]

My copy of 4A from a couple years ago covered 17 lessons of fable over the school year with no supplemental writing lessons.

Thank you! Hmm, I wonder why the difference? (I noticed 4M has 12 lessons covered)

[Mom2mthj]

It is quite possible that it changed in the last couple of years. It might be ancient history and I don’t know it yet😀.

[Michelle T]

Good morning ladies! Though I noticed this thread last night, I didn't have copies of the 3 Curriculum Manuals at my house to compare them. 4th grade M covers 12 Fable lessons beginning week 10. Those first few weeks are supplemental writing activities and those from the Enrichment section of the literature guides. 4th grade A covers 17 lessons of Fable beginning week 1 and continuing through the end of the year. 4th grade NU mirrors the 4th grade M.

Hope this helps you!

[momgineer]

I didn’t realize A and M had different schedules for Fable! My *guess* is 4A is the original plans and when they write M/NU plans they realized students benefit from a better transition (maybe because they switched to IEW instead of Intro Comp????) so they added in transition material. You don’t need to rush through Fable- they revisit it *every* year so it’s nice to save a bunch of never done yet Fables for those years.

[howiecram]

I didn’t realize A and M had different schedules for Fable! My *guess* is 4A is the original plans and when they write M/NU plans they realized students benefit from a better transition (maybe because they switched to IEW instead of Intro Comp????) so they added in transition material. You don’t need to rush through Fable- they revisit it *every* year so it’s nice to save a bunch of never done yet Fables for those years.

That's helpful to know!!

[tanya]

Well, I have been visiting schools in McAllen, TX, and I have been puzzling over my actions here for days. There has to be a reason I did these plans differently but I can't come up with it. I would really prefer everyone to do those supplemental lessons, so I guess I will go back and edit the plans that don't include them. I'm irritated that I can't remember my logic though!

Tanya