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    Classical Comp 1 in 4A vs in 4M (4th for NU)

    I was just wondering, I noticed that in 4A, Classical Comp 1 begins on week 1. However, in 4M (I'm guessing 4th for NU as well?) 9 weeks of "supplemental" writing is scheduled. Are more lessons covered in 4A? Are these supplemental lessons also in 4A, just scheduled at a different time?
    Christine

    (2019/2020)
    DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
    DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
    DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

    Previous Years
    DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
    DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
    DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

    #2
    I don't have an answer on this (we used 4NU a few years ago and won't get to 4A until next year). But I would say that it doesn't matter which plans you use. You never complete a composition book with MP because the extra lessons are used for review every year before starting a new level. When my boys started High School Comp II with MPOA, the class did one lesson each from Fable, Narrative, Chreia, and Ref/Con before ever touching Common Topic. The homeschool plans work the same way.
    Jennifer
    Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

    DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
    DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
    DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
    DS11: SC 4
    DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
    DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
    DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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      #3
      I am going to buy either 5M or 4A (I have 4M) so i was just curious the difference so I could decide which core to buy!
      Christine

      (2019/2020)
      DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
      DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
      DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

      Previous Years
      DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
      DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
      DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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        #4
        Originally posted by howiecram View Post
        I am going to buy either 5M or 4A (I have 4M) so i was just curious the difference so I could decide which core to buy!
        5M uses Narrative.
        Jennifer
        Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

        DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
        DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
        DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
        DS11: SC 4
        DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
        DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
        DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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          #5
          Originally posted by jen1134 View Post

          5M uses Narrative.
          Yes, I know that. I just mean I was curious the difference in the between the 4A and 4th M. I have 4M, but will likely do more of the 5th core. However, if the plans for 4A are different (and considering some of the supplemental lessons actually correspond to the lit selections in 4A/5) I was just curious in the difference. If it lines up differently, I might consider the 4A manual.
          Christine

          (2019/2020)
          DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
          DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
          DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

          Previous Years
          DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
          DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
          DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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            #6
            Got it!
            Jennifer
            Blog: [url]www.seekingdelectare.com[/url]

            DS16: MP, MPOA, HSC, Breaking the Barrier French
            DS15: MP, MPOA, HSC
            DS12: Mash-up of 6/7M
            DS11: SC 4
            DD9: 3A with First Form Latin (long story!)
            DD8: Mash-up of SC 1/2
            DD5: January birthday, using SC B and C as a two-year JrK

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              #7
              If you can wait a few weeks, I'm ordering 4A in a few days... hahaha, but I think you need some expert advice from someone who has seen both! 🐱
              Mama to 2

              Summer:
              MPK with SC1 Phonics & Math
              SY 20/21
              4A

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                #8
                My copy of 4A from a couple years ago covered 17 lessons of fable over the school year with no supplemental writing lessons.
                Dorinda

                For 2019-2020
                DD 16 - 11th with MPOA(AP Latin), Lukeion (Greek4 & Adv. NT Greek), Thinkwell (Economics and Chemistry), plus Pre-Calculus, American G’ment, Early Church History set, and British Lit
                DS 14 - 8th with MPOA(Fourth Form), CLRC(Intro Lit and Comp), plus Algebra, Field Biology, Classical Studies 1
                DS 11 - 6th with Right Start Level G online class
                DS 6 - 1st with Prima Latina

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mom2mthj View Post
                  My copy of 4A from a couple years ago covered 17 lessons of fable over the school year with no supplemental writing lessons.
                  Thank you! Hmm, I wonder why the difference? (I noticed 4M has 12 lessons covered)
                  Christine

                  (2019/2020)
                  DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                  DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                  DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                  Previous Years
                  DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                  DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                  DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                    #10
                    It is quite possible that it changed in the last couple of years. It might be ancient history and I don’t know it yet😀.
                    Dorinda

                    For 2019-2020
                    DD 16 - 11th with MPOA(AP Latin), Lukeion (Greek4 & Adv. NT Greek), Thinkwell (Economics and Chemistry), plus Pre-Calculus, American G’ment, Early Church History set, and British Lit
                    DS 14 - 8th with MPOA(Fourth Form), CLRC(Intro Lit and Comp), plus Algebra, Field Biology, Classical Studies 1
                    DS 11 - 6th with Right Start Level G online class
                    DS 6 - 1st with Prima Latina

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                      #11
                      Good morning ladies! Though I noticed this thread last night, I didn't have copies of the 3 Curriculum Manuals at my house to compare them. 4th grade M covers 12 Fable lessons beginning week 10. Those first few weeks are supplemental writing activities and those from the Enrichment section of the literature guides. 4th grade A covers 17 lessons of Fable beginning week 1 and continuing through the end of the year. 4th grade NU mirrors the 4th grade M.

                      Hope this helps you!

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                        #12
                        I didn’t realize A and M had different schedules for Fable! My *guess* is 4A is the original plans and when they write M/NU plans they realized students benefit from a better transition (maybe because they switched to IEW instead of Intro Comp????) so they added in transition material. You don’t need to rush through Fable- they revisit it *every* year so it’s nice to save a bunch of never done yet Fables for those years.
                        Debbie- mom of 7, civil engineering grad, married to mechanical engineer
                        DD, 25, BFA '17 graphic design and illustration
                        DS, 23, BS '18 mechanical engineering
                        DS, 21, chemistry major
                        DS, 18, Physics major
                        DD, 15, dyslexic, 10th grade customizednMP plus co-op
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by momgineer View Post
                          I didn’t realize A and M had different schedules for Fable! My *guess* is 4A is the original plans and when they write M/NU plans they realized students benefit from a better transition (maybe because they switched to IEW instead of Intro Comp????) so they added in transition material. You don’t need to rush through Fable- they revisit it *every* year so it’s nice to save a bunch of never done yet Fables for those years.
                          That's helpful to know!!
                          Christine

                          (2019/2020)
                          DD1 8/23/09 - SC5/6
                          DS2 9/1/11 - SC3,4, 5/6 combo
                          DD3 2/9/13 -SC2 to start, MP1 second semester

                          Previous Years
                          DD 1 (MPK, SC2 (with AAR), SC3, SC4’
                          DS2 (SCB, SCC, MPK, SC2)
                          DD3 (SCA, SCB, Jr. K workbooks, soaking up from the others, MPK)

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                            #14
                            Well, I have been visiting schools in McAllen, TX, and I have been puzzling over my actions here for days. There has to be a reason I did these plans differently but I can't come up with it. I would really prefer everyone to do those supplemental lessons, so I guess I will go back and edit the plans that don't include them. I'm irritated that I can't remember my logic though!

                            Tanya

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