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  • Sugarbelle
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    [QUOTE=Callista;n111287]




    "I just have to also say (opinion) that if the song you are referring to is the, "CC Timeline Song," I hear ya. It's a great song and super catchy but you will be fine to drop that. I promise. They will likely not be able to tell you what event comes first or second without going through the entire 15 minute song. Yikes!"

    This was our experience, too.

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  • Sugarbelle
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    Originally posted by ShaunaN View Post
    Morning Time seems like a natural way to start the school day. Since we've always done it that way, I'm struggling to think through how the school day would begin. Do you have some kind of morning meeting to get everyone started on their individual work? Do your kids just grab their stuff and get to work? pickandgrin , I think it is that hard start to the day that I rely on!
    After breakfast and brushing teeth and all that, we have short devotions, a weekly memory verse, and prayer. It takes about fifteen or twenty minutes and then the kids begin their work. It's a great way for us to start the day.

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  • ShaunaN
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    Thanks, Callista. I really appreciate your encouragement!

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  • Callista
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    Originally posted by ShaunaN View Post

    Callista, I think my whole homeschool experience has been #2 - good in theory! I've really been mulling over what is and isn't working for us. Now that my oldest is getting past those primary years, I am seeing that many, many things that are promoted among homeschool circles are not effective in *actually* teaching. Morning Time - while it is something my kids expect and enjoy for the most part - sometimes feels like I'm just throwing information out into the wind and no one is responding, remembering, connecting...all the things I'm expecting to happen, but aren't. For instance, we have memorized a timeline set to music for the last 5 1/2 years. Turn the CD on, my son can sing along. Ask him later to tell me what happened first, the Spanish Inquisition or World War I, and he doesn't have a clue. Lots of curricula/publishers/leaders in homeschool seem to discourage actual teaching. Maybe because that can be very overwhelming, especially with multiple children in multiple grades? Maybe because it takes a lot more preparation on my part than just opening a book and reading aloud or turning on a CD/DVD? I don't know.

    If you need a hard definite start to your morning and you have a routine that brings your household order for getting started and discipline to keep going throughout the day then keep that routine! As you mentioned earlier, maybe just shorten it. *Morning Prayer, *Scripture for the week, *Read Aloud or Poem. Then break for individual school work.

    FWIW: From reading your posts, I think it sounds like you are doing a beautiful job. I think that part of your, "mulling over what is and isn't working," is just growing pains. They are good because it is allows you to adjust your home for what you need each year and as your kids get older and change, how their needs can be met. It is also part of the learning curve of starting with Memoria Press.

    I just have to also say (opinion) that if the song you are referring to is the, "CC Timeline Song," I hear ya. It's a great song and super catchy but you will be fine to drop that. I promise. They will likely not be able to tell you what event comes first or second without going through the entire 15 minute song. Yikes!

    We have done different things in different seasons but with where we are right now, we start our day with breakfast and chores. I have one who gets up earlier and one who needs a little extra sleep so this happens at different times. I have lists for them of what I want them to do and they get started. I usually star or highlight what they need to do with me teaching. We usually come together around lunch time. This is where we will pray together before our meal and then listen to a story. I love Audible so we always have a story going from one of the two cores that we are currently doing. They each always love the books and I have not run into a book yet that hasn't worked for both of them. We listen to a chapter or two and then just casually, over lunch, discuss different things about it. On the rare occasion that I forget to have the book out, it is always the first things they mention. It is a small, seemingly irrelevant, routine that we have that brings us together. I think (*I hope*) it will be a memory they will carry with them when they are older.

    A time of family togetherness in this homeschooling journey is important. You will just have to trouble shoot your day to see what works for you and for your combination of ages. This looks different for everyone. Again, I think it sounds like you have a definite hold on this and are doing a beautiful job *in reality*!!!
    Last edited by Callista; 04-09-2019, 08:13 AM. Reason: left out the quote

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  • carriede
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    Originally posted by ShaunaN View Post
    Morning Time seems like a natural way to start the school day. Since we've always done it that way, I'm struggling to think through how the school day would begin. Do you have some kind of morning meeting to get everyone started on their individual work? Do your kids just grab their stuff and get to work? pickandgrin , I think it is that hard start to the day that I rely on!
    Our mornings are not scheduled all that well.. my kids wake up whenever (they're naturally early risers), I help my 5 and 3 year olds with breakfast, my older kids make their own. We all get dressed, brush teeth, make beds, then they get to play while I tidy up. I pull out independent work for my older kids and get what I need for lessons with my 5 year old. And then.....

    I play two songs off my phone into a Bluetooth speaker. I play them loud enough fo the kids to hear wherever they are (we're all on one floor). By the end of the 2nd song (they're the same songs everyday), the older kids need to be working through their lists, and the 5 yo should be at the table ready to work (and me too!).

    This is a really long way to answer your question... I get my older kids started on independent work by playing a song to announce school time.

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  • pickandgrin
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    Originally posted by ShaunaN View Post
    Morning Time seems like a natural way to start the school day. Since we've always done it that way, I'm struggling to think through how the school day would begin. Do you have some kind of morning meeting to get everyone started on their individual work? Do your kids just grab their stuff and get to work? pickandgrin , I think it is that hard start to the day that I rely on!
    Yes, 3 of 4 kids just grab their work and get going whenever they get up several before eating, and that can only work if they know what to do on their own and have their plans to go by. After 7 years of MP, we are there! With younger kids I wouldn't expect this and/or with being new to MP. This is a long, slow building of who can do what without mom. My first grader is the only one who needs me to be at elbow to get work done. At the beginning of the year everyone needs more help because some things are new but by this time of year we are crusining in for a landing on about May 17th (but no one is counting, right?).

    You can start by working together and assigning take within subjects then work toward what your oldest could do well without direct oversight. It won't be much at this point, but it will grow over time. I totally after with Christine that you don't need to charge something that's working but you will need to shorten it. Maybe just take it down to scripture, a prayer, review the day ahead, and break. Then as you get into the cores, add a thing or two but in small bites. If you can read aloud to them while they eat, that's great. I've never been about to pull this off because breakfast and lunch is on your own at my house and we all eat at different times. Our biggest listening time to good books is in the van together.

    Just take heart that this is a moving target. Find what is life-giving for next year, then change it when needed, then repeat.

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  • howiecram
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    Originally posted by ShaunaN View Post
    Morning Time seems like a natural way to start the school day. Since we've always done it that way, I'm struggling to think through how the school day would begin. Do you have some kind of morning meeting to get everyone started on their individual work? Do your kids just grab their stuff and get to work? pickandgrin , I think it is that hard start to the day that I rely on!
    If you have established a good working morning routine and you enjoy it, I would not necessarily stop it. You may just need to cut a few things out. The "morning time" would be more of a family culture vs. school work. If it is something you have grown to look forward to, then pick a few things you really love/need and then move on, drop the rest!

    My kids are haphazard in when they wake up. I tried something like a morning time for years. I get frustrated. The kids eat breakfast, I have usually finished and enjoy coffee and e-mail/facebook. Around 8:30 I start moving kids along. I usually work with my youngest while my older two finish up breakfast and morning chores. I finish with my youngest (about 20 min for phonics) and then move to the middle child (my oldest begins her Latin) for his phonics (another 20 min). (The youngest does her workbook for math at this time) I move back to my youngest to do some math drills (son works on math workbook) (oldest moves to her math if she is done with Latin). At this point the youngest have done math and phonics (literature) and if nothing else gets done for them, we are A. ok. I move on to the oldest at this point. We work for awhile. It's time for lunch. We have lunch. After lunch, we do enrichment with the youngest two (oldest finds work she can do without me). Then my oldest and I finish up the rest of her work. (I currently have a K, 1 and 3rd grader) Mondays are the longest, where Thursdays are actually quite short.

    Next year, I am planning to stagger the 1st day of the week for each child, because the 1st day is usually the longest. I hope this will balance our week.

    I also want you to keep in mind that the beautiful curriculum guide is a GUIDE, and you do not have to do what it says exactly as it says. In the younger years you might find a child moving more quickly in one subject than another. The dishwasher might crash one day and the repair guy comes and your afternoon subjects are now a "day behind". Just do the next thing, check the boxes so you know what you have done and move on!

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  • mamathompson
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    We do a morning time. First thing as everyone rolls out of bed. We watch CNN 10 together, listen to a hymn or a folk song and do Bible study. They eat breakfast sometime during and then we break to prepare ourselves and our home for the day before we start on the rest of our school. It works well for us as a way to wake up and begin the day together. My kids are 7th grade and younger.

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  • ShaunaN
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    Morning Time seems like a natural way to start the school day. Since we've always done it that way, I'm struggling to think through how the school day would begin. Do you have some kind of morning meeting to get everyone started on their individual work? Do your kids just grab their stuff and get to work? pickandgrin , I think it is that hard start to the day that I rely on!

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  • ShaunaN
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    enbateau, thanks for sharing how it looks in your house. I can see that working well for us.

    Callista, I think my whole homeschool experience has been #2 - good in theory! I've really been mulling over what is and isn't working for us. Now that my oldest is getting past those primary years, I am seeing that many, many things that are promoted among homeschool circles are not effective in *actually* teaching. Morning Time - while it is something my kids expect and enjoy for the most part - sometimes feels like I'm just throwing information out into the wind and no one is responding, remembering, connecting...all the things I'm expecting to happen, but aren't. For instance, we have memorized a timeline set to music for the last 5 1/2 years. Turn the CD on, my son can sing along. Ask him later to tell me what happened first, the Spanish Inquisition or World War I, and he doesn't have a clue. Lots of curricula/publishers/leaders in homeschool seem to discourage actual teaching. Maybe because that can be very overwhelming, especially with multiple children in multiple grades? Maybe because it takes a lot more preparation on my part than just opening a book and reading aloud or turning on a CD/DVD? I don't know.

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  • PrarieGirl
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    We use the K-2 Enrichment (we’re currently using 1) and one of the older kid’s read alouds for our morning time over breakfast. I begin with the older child’s read aloud so he can go get started on his work as soon as he finishes breakfast. He usually sticks around for the little’s story and his favorite Enrichment activities My 1st grader is usually ready for a break after Enrichment so I finish up with my 2nd grader’s recitation, Latin flashcards, Memory verse & a quick run through of spelling words. I like to begin by 8 and never allow it go go past 9:00(after the routine is established). If I don’t do Enrichment first, it doesn’t get done. We’re pretty consistent with getting the “real work” finished afterwards.

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  • pickandgrin
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    Just chiming in to agree with Callista. We were diehard morning-timers for a few years until it started taking away from our homeschool rather than giving to it. I didn't even hear of morning time as a homeschooler until we were several years in! It was not a wildly discussed phenomenon in 2012. Ha!

    I'd encourage you to think about your priorities that MT fulfills (reading together, prayer, Bible, memory work, hard start to the day together, etc.) and then look for how MP is meeting some/all of those needs in the cores. Once you get a better feel for what is already getting done, then you can add back in anything you feel is missing. And, each year will be different. Things that you have time for now will shift as they grow. Embracing the uniqueness of each season in your family's life is one of the blessings of homeschooling. As Callista mentioned, a different time of the day might be key--hot tea after lunch or something. Please let us know how this works out as your transition and decide!

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  • Callista
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    I generally find that things like this fall into one of two categories: #1= good idea in reality and #2= good idea in theory. The morning time activities really only worked for us when the children were very little (K-2 cores). As they grew and the cores became more, I found it easier and more harmonious to just allow each to get started once they woke up and had their breakfast/chores competed. It removed the chaos of waiting around for everyone to get where they needed to be at a certain time and less time was wasted. I think having a morning time is very idyllic to a lot of homeschoolers but for us it was definitely one of those things that just looked better on paper (category #2).

    If it works for you to do morning time then I would do the first grade read aloud together and the other enrichment pieces as was mentioned above. All of the children of your ages will love that and even the fourth grader will glean a lot of from it. It may also be that your, "morning time," activities fit in better at a different time during the day (after lunch or afternoon outside time for example).

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  • enbateau
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    We always start the day with breakfast, prayer and Bible, which takes about 45 min. They do chores for 15-20 min (make bed, jammies in hamper, dressed, teeth, hair) and meet in the HS room for Pledge of Allegiance, MP2 prayer and Recitation. Then we split. Tues-Thurs is sometimes straight from chores to pledge and independent work. Our Bible time is never related to MP Christian Studies or Bible. My kids and I love it and need it. Poetry and scripture memory happens at the board or lunch table.

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  • melaneesa
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    We had a few years of morning time, but with 3 cores, it just got to be too much. I had to prioritize. Sometimes we still sing a hymn and pray to start our day, but we don't do a full morning time. Your kids are young enough that you could still do something like that for a couple more years. I would suggest paring it down to just a few things, though. Your cores will be full of wonderful things!

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