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    We are working on Ex. 417 and 418 which covers Accusative with the Infinitive after verbs of saying, thinking, seeing, etc., and we have found the answer key giving issent on the end of some of the perfect infinitive actives (specifically, so far, Ex. 417 # 2, 4 & Ex 418 # 25) and we would like an explanation if you are able. Ex. 417 #2 & 3 seem like they should be handled identically, but they are not in the answer key.


    Great question! The accusative with infinitive is used in indirect statements. Indirect questions, however, use the sequence of tenses (See Lesson 26, sections 2-3).

    In English, it can be hard to tell the difference between the two because indirect questions often seem to be statements when they are in fact questions. The easiest way is to look at the clause after the verb of saying, thinking, etc. If you were to remove that verb and the clause would be a declarative sentence (i.e. not a question), the clause is an indirect statement. They often begin with the word that.

    Ex. 417, No. 3:
    We saw that the enemy had prepared fortifications.
    The enemy had prepared fortifications. = indirect statement, accusative with infinitive

    If you were to the main verb and the clause would be a question, it is an indirect question. They often begin with a word indicating a question (e.g. what, where, why). The word whether is often used too.

    Ex. 417, No. 2:
    We found out where the enemy had stationed guards.
    Where [had] the enemy stationed guards? = indirect question, sequence of tenses

    The sequence of tenses uses the subjunctive, so when you see endings on the perfect infinitive, that is the pluperfect subjunctive tense. (See Lesson 26, section 1.)

    The three examples you mentioned having issent (Ex. 417 #2, 4 & Ex 418 #25) are all examples of indirect questions. The warning at the beginning of Exercise 17 mentions that some of these sentences take “an indirect question or an accusative object” instead of the accusative with infinitive.

    Please let me know if this makes sense or if you have any more questions.
    Memoria Press


      It makes perfect sense, thank you. Multiple interuptions while trying to do my lesson makes it difficult to retain those little reminders.