Is there a compilation of student samples from each CC level posted somewhere? Ideally organized by level with at least 2 samples from students beginning that level and two by students nearing completion of that level.
I ask because when I asked about my student being ready to move on to the next level, a kind MP representative (Abigail) provided excellent student samples, which I found to be so much more helpful (as well as enjoyable to read) and filled with much more “vivid detail” than I was understanding from the TM. Having these samples much earlier in our journey would have been amazing.
My student is currently doing lesson 2 in Chreia and Maxim. I have read every thread I can find and I understand this level teaches various ways to support an argument (thesis) by teaching students different ways to show why the truth of the saying is admirable. This level is making my child think about how best to do that.
Specifically, the cause and converse paragraphs feel awkward. I understand cause is a positive outcome from heeding the truth and converse is very closely related but highlights a negative outcome. The suffering and reversal are different but the other narrative components should be pretty much the same. My son tried to use the example of the Civil War nearly destroying the Union as the converse, but I redirected him to use that as the example paragraph. He forgets to add the requested figures of description, which we then brainstorm ways to add a few descriptive words into each paragraph on the final draft day. To me, the examples in the TM call a handful of descriptive words or an added descriptive phrase “vivid”. I see why they are needed, so that spice and interest is added to the writing.
An online class at this point is impossible for us due to several conflicting issues. The TM is great, the DVD’s are helpful, but what I need are samples. Samples from real students as they progress through Chreia/Maxim (and really Ref/Con also). Maybe even with comments that explain why certain aspects were spot on and maybe this one paragraph missed the mark and a suggestion for what would improve it.
I ask because when I asked about my student being ready to move on to the next level, a kind MP representative (Abigail) provided excellent student samples, which I found to be so much more helpful (as well as enjoyable to read) and filled with much more “vivid detail” than I was understanding from the TM. Having these samples much earlier in our journey would have been amazing.
My student is currently doing lesson 2 in Chreia and Maxim. I have read every thread I can find and I understand this level teaches various ways to support an argument (thesis) by teaching students different ways to show why the truth of the saying is admirable. This level is making my child think about how best to do that.
Specifically, the cause and converse paragraphs feel awkward. I understand cause is a positive outcome from heeding the truth and converse is very closely related but highlights a negative outcome. The suffering and reversal are different but the other narrative components should be pretty much the same. My son tried to use the example of the Civil War nearly destroying the Union as the converse, but I redirected him to use that as the example paragraph. He forgets to add the requested figures of description, which we then brainstorm ways to add a few descriptive words into each paragraph on the final draft day. To me, the examples in the TM call a handful of descriptive words or an added descriptive phrase “vivid”. I see why they are needed, so that spice and interest is added to the writing.
An online class at this point is impossible for us due to several conflicting issues. The TM is great, the DVD’s are helpful, but what I need are samples. Samples from real students as they progress through Chreia/Maxim (and really Ref/Con also). Maybe even with comments that explain why certain aspects were spot on and maybe this one paragraph missed the mark and a suggestion for what would improve it.
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