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    OT: Classical education in multicultural world

    My computer logged me out and ate my first post. This will be shorter because I'm out of time.

    I'm in a graduate level Social Research class, and I need to a semester long project. If I can persuade my professor in my meeting tomorrow, I would like to look at classical education in a modern, multicultural world. This is somewhat inspired by the white washing post, but also by an uptick in private/ magnet schools offering a classical education.

    I'm finding good background articles on ERIC and in the media, but I still need to ask a question. Possibly something related to best practices, improved outcomes or some other data-driven angle that I can tie into classical ed and multiculturalism. Any thing stand out to those who are actively involved as classical educators as a "big question?"

    Also, if I get the go ahead, does anyone know of a school or cottage school that serve a not-so-white-middle-class population that might be willing to talk to me? My cottage school was fairly diverse, but very small and was just for a couple of years.

    ETA: It just occurred to me that diversity can also include some types of special needs, so that is another potential direction, but again, I'm not sure what questions need answered.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by bean; 08-30-2017, 10:32 AM.
    Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

    I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

    DD (17) Graduated!
    Mechanical Engineering

    "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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    Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

    Bean,

    I think you have set upon a big question for a lot of people--does classical education truly bring about a better education than other types or is it just demographics?

    If you email me or send me a PM I'd be happy to point you to a couple schools that are along the lines you need.

    Paul
    Paul Schaeffer
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    Academy Director
    Memoria Press Online Academy

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      #3
      Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

      Bean,
      You might enjoy this talk by Debbie Harris, a consultant with Circe: https://www.circeinstitute.org/podca...lly-inner-city
      Festina lentē,
      Jessica P

      '22-'23 • 13th year HSing • 11th year MP
      DS Hillsdale College freshman
      DD 11th • HLN & Latin online
      DD 8th • HLN & Home
      DS 5th • HLN & Home
      Me • Memoria College, MPOA Fourth Form for Adults

      Teaching Third Form Latin and co-directing @
      Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School, est. 2016

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        Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

        Thank you, both. I hope I'm able to follow through with this. Otherwise, I'm afraid it will be something like "best practices in engaging teen readers."
        Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

        I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

        DD (17) Graduated!
        Mechanical Engineering

        "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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          #5
          Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

          Bean,
          Have you read Simply Classical?
          Festina lentē,
          Jessica P

          '22-'23 • 13th year HSing • 11th year MP
          DS Hillsdale College freshman
          DD 11th • HLN & Latin online
          DD 8th • HLN & Home
          DS 5th • HLN & Home
          Me • Memoria College, MPOA Fourth Form for Adults

          Teaching Third Form Latin and co-directing @
          Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School, est. 2016

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            #6
            Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

            I'm not sure. I think I have, but I don't own it. I should track down a copy to see if my mind is playing tricks on me (highly probable.)

            Thanks!
            Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

            I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

            DD (17) Graduated!
            Mechanical Engineering

            "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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              #7
              Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

              You might consider PMing Cheryl Swope directly. I bet she has a few big questions floating around and she might lend you one she'd love to do research on, but doesn't have the time right now. ;-)
              Festina lentē,
              Jessica P

              '22-'23 • 13th year HSing • 11th year MP
              DS Hillsdale College freshman
              DD 11th • HLN & Latin online
              DD 8th • HLN & Home
              DS 5th • HLN & Home
              Me • Memoria College, MPOA Fourth Form for Adults

              Teaching Third Form Latin and co-directing @
              Highlands Latin Nashville Cottage School, est. 2016

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                #8
                Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                I did get the green light to do this. I think I'm the only one who didn't need to do a Library/ Information Technology question. Right now I'm doing "literature reviews", so I'm still forming my questions.
                Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

                I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

                DD (17) Graduated!
                Mechanical Engineering

                "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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                  #9
                  Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                  Have you read "Marva Collins' Way"? She applied classical education methods in a multicultural school situation and achieved great results.
                  Cindy Davis
                  Science and Math teacher at Highlands Latin School - Indianapolis
                  ds-26 college graduate: independent young adult
                  ds-24 college graduate: 3rd year med school
                  dd-22 college graduate: working as a registered nurse

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                    #10
                    Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                    Originally posted by Cindy in Indy View Post
                    Have you read "Marva Collins' Way"? She applied classical education methods in a multicultural school situation and achieved great results.
                    Ordered a copy through inter-library loan. Thanks!
                    Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

                    I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

                    DD (17) Graduated!
                    Mechanical Engineering

                    "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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                      #11
                      Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                      I also thought of Rafe Esquith's "Teach Like Your Hair's On Fire". (Love that title!) He used a lot of Shakespeare in a multicultural, low-income school in L.A. and worked wonders. Although his methods are not "classical", the use of Shakespeare as a major learning tool could fit with your focus on literary study.

                      ETA I realized you are doing "literature reviews", not literary study. Oh well, you may still like the book!
                      Last edited by Cindy in Indy; 09-05-2017, 04:43 PM.
                      Cindy Davis
                      Science and Math teacher at Highlands Latin School - Indianapolis
                      ds-26 college graduate: independent young adult
                      ds-24 college graduate: 3rd year med school
                      dd-22 college graduate: working as a registered nurse

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                        Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                        Originally posted by Cindy in Indy View Post
                        I also thought of Rafe Esquith's "Teach Like Your Hair's On Fire". (Love that title!) He used a lot of Shakespeare in a multicultural, low-income school in L.A. and worked wonders. Although his methods are not "classical", the use of Shakespeare as a major learning tool could fit with your focus on literary study.

                        ETA I realized you are doing "literature reviews", not literary study. Oh well, you may still like the book!
                        This is a _great_ read!

                        and, bean, I'm so glad you are doing this: I hope you'll keep us updated! and I am so glad to have the references MP folks have suggested ... one of my dreams is to start a classical school in the Latino area of our county, which is quite near to us and really educationally underserved. This conflicts with my dream of graduate work in math, though. !!!
                        Ana, mama to
                        ds A, 15 yo
                        ds N, 10 yo

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                          #13
                          Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                          Originally posted by Cindy in Indy View Post
                          I also thought of Rafe Esquith's "Teach Like Your Hair's On Fire". (Love that title!) He used a lot of Shakespeare in a multicultural, low-income school in L.A. and worked wonders. Although his methods are not "classical", the use of Shakespeare as a major learning tool could fit with your focus on literary study.
                          I have read this book and did mostly like it. Thanks!
                          Bean. Long time MP user. Almost retired homeschool mom and university faculty/ librarian.

                          I apologize in advance for my typos and grammatical mishaps.

                          DD (17) Graduated!
                          Mechanical Engineering

                          "School Administrator" to niece (9): MP 3A

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                            #14
                            Re: OT: Classical education in multicultural world

                            This is an amazing school in a very low-income part of Dallas, TX. My husband and I were acquainted with one of their teachers when we lived in Dallas. http://www.wdcschool.org/
                            Heather

                            DD 9, MP 4A
                            DD 6, MP 2
                            DS 4 & DS 4--going to Pre-K three mornings/week
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