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    #46
    Originally posted by spiland View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    We're looking into the issue with Froguts . . . I'm a Mac user as well! Just letting you know we're on it.

    Scott Piland
    Director
    Memoria Press Online Academy
    Mr. Piland, have you had a chance to look into the Froguts/Mac issue yet? I went ahead and signed my rising sophomore up for bio online, but am wondering how he’d handle the virtual lab part if Froguts is the only option. (My oldest is completing virtual labs with Labster, if that looks like a possibility - we paid for it through Kolbe, so I don’t know if individuals can sign up/pay for the program or not, or if it addresses the same topics MPOA does, but I thought I’d throw it out there.)
    Brit

    Catholic mom to five
    2019-2020:
    Ds '01 - College freshman: Thomas Aquinas College
    Ds '03 - 10th grade: MPOA Algebra 2, and a bunch of other stuff
    Ds '06 - 8th: MP Tiner science (chemistry, physics, and astronomy), 8M lit, 8M Exploring Planet Earth, ancient history, OLVS 8 Catechism
    Dd '10 (Down syndrome) - JrK with little brother and BOB books
    Ds '15 - JrK with big sister

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      #47
      Originally posted by MyLittleWonders View Post

      Mr. Piland, have you had a chance to look into the Froguts/Mac issue yet? I went ahead and signed my rising sophomore up for bio online, but am wondering how he’d handle the virtual lab part if Froguts is the only option. (My oldest is completing virtual labs with Labster, if that looks like a possibility - we paid for it through Kolbe, so I don’t know if individuals can sign up/pay for the program or not, or if it addresses the same topics MPOA does, but I thought I’d throw it out there.)
      Good afternoon Brit,

      I spoke with Mr. Piland, and he is still researching different options. He's also wants to consult with the MPOA Biology teacher, but he may need to wait until the academic year (specifically, finals) are over. He hopes to have an answer by early June.
      Michael
      Memoria Press

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        #48
        Originally posted by Michael View Post

        Good afternoon Brit,

        I spoke with Mr. Piland, and he is still researching different options. He's also wants to consult with the MPOA Biology teacher, but he may need to wait until the academic year (specifically, finals) are over. He hopes to have an answer by early June.
        Thank you, Michael, for updating.
        Brit

        Catholic mom to five
        2019-2020:
        Ds '01 - College freshman: Thomas Aquinas College
        Ds '03 - 10th grade: MPOA Algebra 2, and a bunch of other stuff
        Ds '06 - 8th: MP Tiner science (chemistry, physics, and astronomy), 8M lit, 8M Exploring Planet Earth, ancient history, OLVS 8 Catechism
        Dd '10 (Down syndrome) - JrK with little brother and BOB books
        Ds '15 - JrK with big sister

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          #49
          Does anyone have a good link to Novare biology table of contents or sample pages? I appreciate the Modern Biology links in this thread. Trying to piece together a lab schedule using Experiences in Biology and choosing which book to use at the same time. I was only able to find a list of Novare labs and am puzzled that I don’t see any dissections or field work.
          Homeschool mom, MP since 2011
          DS, 13, MP 8th grade
          DS, 11, MP 6th grade

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            #50
            Novare used to have TOC and samples on their website. No idea if CAP who bought them out has them. Let me go looking....
            Debbie- mom of 7, civil engineering grad, married to mechanical engineer
            DD, 25, BFA '17 graphic design and illustration
            DS, 23, BS '18 mechanical engineering
            DS, 21, chemistry major
            DS, 18, Physics major
            DD, 15, dyslexic, 10th grade customizednMP plus co-op
            DS, 12, super squirmy, possible dysgraphia, MP 7A
            DD, 6 , K- finally one who seems to like drawing and writing- first one since my oldest!

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              #51
              I’m all kinds of disappointed! The Novare website used to have extensive samples and the ability to purchase the beta version. Since Classical Acedemic Press bought them out it seems CAP no longer has a text sample or the ability to purchase the beta version. Sadness. CAP does have samples of the other Novare texts. I presume they will but the biology samples back up when they release the full (not beta) version. But that doesn’t help you in the meantime 😢.
              Debbie- mom of 7, civil engineering grad, married to mechanical engineer
              DD, 25, BFA '17 graphic design and illustration
              DS, 23, BS '18 mechanical engineering
              DS, 21, chemistry major
              DS, 18, Physics major
              DD, 15, dyslexic, 10th grade customizednMP plus co-op
              DS, 12, super squirmy, possible dysgraphia, MP 7A
              DD, 6 , K- finally one who seems to like drawing and writing- first one since my oldest!

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                #52
                I just spoke with someone at CAP finally and she is rounding up hopefully something for me this morning. I will post whatever I come up with.
                Homeschool mom, MP since 2011
                DS, 13, MP 8th grade
                DS, 11, MP 6th grade

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                  #53
                  Successful acquisition of Novare Biology Draft Table of Contents.... looks good... printing and wading through.
                  Attached Files
                  Homeschool mom, MP since 2011
                  DS, 13, MP 8th grade
                  DS, 11, MP 6th grade

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                    #54
                    I was on the phone with CAP today too, and they are working hard on getting the samples and TOC on their website. She said these things didn't import from the Novare site when they made the switch, so they are working on correcting that. She will let me know when she has a firm date that they will be back up.

                    Tanya

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                      #55
                      CAP just told me their samples are up on the website now, so you can access Novare samples!

                      Tanya

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by tanya View Post
                        CAP just told me their samples are up on the website now, so you can access Novare samples!
                        Thank you! I just took a look at the Sample Pages, sure enough, very good. I also simultaneously got this answer from my email last week and I thought I would share with everyone. Responses in red are from:

                        Jeffrey Mays
                        Science Education Specialist &
                        Sales Associate
                        515 S. 32nd Street • Camp Hill, PA 17011
                        jeffreymays@classicalsubjects.com
                        717-730-0711 ext. 3467
                        www.ClassicalAcademicPress.com
                        novarescienceandmath.com
                        centripetalpress.com


                        "Do you have any other sample pages you can send me from within a chapter? We have used Novare Earth Science and Physical Science in middle school and I am curious to know what the writing level is for this book. The other two were definitely geared for the younger age, which has been fine.

                        General Biology is definitely a high school text while the two you mentioned are designed for middle school. Typically we consider it best for 10th or 11th grade withIntroductory Physics placed in the 9th grade.

                        There are sample pages of each science text on the CAP website. Each product page features an image of the book, and you can click “Look Inside” to view them.

                        Does Biology follow the same system as the other two we have used so far, i.e. chapters with learning checks interspersed, end of chapter exercises, weekly quizzes, and a lesson plan provided to take you through the year? Mid term and final exam, plus labs?

                        It's a little different at the high school level. We do not use the learning checks, only chapter exercises. Weekly quizzes are replaced with typically two quizzes and a chapter test for every chapter. Midterm and final exam are the same. And we provide the same tools for planning the year out. There will be a separate lab experiment manual (not included on the CD).

                        The website says Summer 2020, do you have anything more specific than that? I will need time to begin sourcing lab materials and prepping for the class, as well as making any late stage changes before school starts in mid-August if the book should turn out to be not a good fit.

                        If you purchase the pre-order of the final edition now, we can send you a copy of the softcover beta edition of the text. The experiments are still being developed; the first 4 are ready, but the remaining 7 are experiencing some hold-ups, so I do not have a timeframe on those. Again, if you preorder the experiment manual, I can send you the 4 that are ready in a PDF document.

                        If I order the book now, will I be receiving the digital resources right away and does that include the quiz and LC key information?

                        Yes. You might want to specify on the order that you would like to receive the supplemental items immediately. If you have any trouble, just forward me your receipt and I will get them to you.

                        I see solutions manuals online for the Physics and Chemistry classes. Will there be one available for Biology?
                        No, biology will not have a solutions manual to my knowledge. A “solutions manual” contains the “solutions” to calculation problems. Since biology does not require much in the way of mathematical calculations, a solutions manual is not necessary. An answer key is included with the digital resources; that should be all you need.



                        Homeschool mom, MP since 2011
                        DS, 13, MP 8th grade
                        DS, 11, MP 6th grade

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                          #57
                          Does MP have plans to switch from Holt to Novare for Biology? If yes, do you have a timeline for the switch?
                          Joyfully, Courtney
                          DS14, DS12, DS11, DD9

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                            #58
                            Courtney,

                            We are not planning to switch to Novare at this time. We will continue to use Holt.

                            Tanya

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by tanya View Post
                              Courtney,

                              We are not planning to switch to Novare at this time. We will continue to use Holt.

                              Tanya
                              Thanks! That is helpful to know.
                              Joyfully, Courtney
                              DS14, DS12, DS11, DD9

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                                #60
                                Quick question...
                                I haven’t read back through the whole thread, but I recently received my biology materials for my son and we sat down to go over them. I was really surprised at how few chapters were covered so I logged back into my daughter’s MPOA account to look over their schedule from last year. MPOA covers 18 chapters not covered in the student guide I just received. Can you explain why all of those chapters were omitted? I was under the impression that it would just be a couple of chapters left out. I am concerned that this won’t cover anywhere near enough material to take the SAT subject test in biology.
                                Dorinda

                                For 2019-2020
                                DD 16 - 11th with MPOA(AP Latin), Lukeion (Greek4 & Adv. NT Greek), Thinkwell (Economics and Chemistry), plus Pre-Calculus, American G’ment, Early Church History set, and British Lit
                                DS 14 - 8th with MPOA(Fourth Form), CLRC(Intro Lit and Comp), plus Algebra, Field Biology, Classical Studies 1
                                DS 11 - 6th with Right Start Level G online class
                                DS 6 - 1st with Prima Latina

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